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FULL TIME: Town 3 Forest 2
4:50pm Saturday 31st July 2010
A FIRST half double from trialist Thomas Dossevi helped Town to a 3-2 friendly win over Nottingham Forest this afternoon at the County Ground.
The Togo international striker, aged 31, netted with a simple finish and an outstanding header as he bids to earn a contract following his release from Nantes.
Two goals by Forest winger Gareth McCleary meant the teams went in all square at half-time, but an own goal from defender Kelvin Wilson after the break won it for Swindon.
Here are the key moments from today's game:
Five mins: Gareth McCleary gets down the right and whips in a cross which is missed by Earnshaw.
Dele Adebola connects at the far post but can only drag his effort wide of the target.
Seven mins (GOAL 1-0 Dossevi): Town are in front with their first attack of the game.
It stems from a superb turn in the centre circle by Jonathan Douglas, who frees Kevin Amankwaah down the right.
The full-back exchanges passes with Jon-Paul McGovern before squaring across the face of goal for trialist Thomas Dossevi to knock home.
13 mins: A loose ball falls kindly to David Prutton around 30 yards out. Spotting Forest keeper Lee Camp off his line, the midfielder tries his luck from distance but shoots narrowly wide.
22 mins (GOAL 1-1 McCleary): Kelvin Wilson takes a quick free-kick, catching Swindon cold. Full-back Chris Gunter advances down the right flank and plays a superb low ball across the face of goal, which Gareth McCleary slams into the roof of the net from a couple of yards.
24 mins: David Ball is fed midway inside the Forest half and proceeds to turn Gunter inside out as he runs at the defender.
Ball gets into the box and shoots low but Camp saves well with his feet.
26 mins (GOAL 1-2 McCleary): No sooner have Forest drawn level then they are in front.
There looks to be nothing on as McCleary picks up the ball outside the area but his shot takes the slightest of deflection off Michael Rose.
It is enough to wrongfoot keeper David Lucas who is grounded as the ball dribbles agonisingly past him and into the back of the net.
29 mins (GOAL 2-2 Dossevi): McGovern is given time on the right wing and floats an inviting cross into the heart of the area.
Dossevi rises superbly ahead of his marker and arrows a looping header over the outstretched reach of Camp and into the top corner.
It is a stunning header as the trialist continues to make a promising first impression.
42 mins: McGovern's corner is met by a thumping Scott Cuthbert header, but the centre-back's effort rattles the crossbar before being hacked clear by Forest.
48 mins: A long punt over the top releases Earnshaw, who has beaten the Town offside trap.
The Welsh international races clear of Cuthbert and Lecsinel Jean-Francois, but fires wide when he should have at least hit the target.
54 mins: The ball is worked across to McGovern, who strikes from fully 30 yards.
The midfielder's shot is rising and fizzes just over the bar.
68 mins (GOAL 3-2 Wilson own goal): Swindon sneak back in front courtesy of an unfortunate own goal.
Michael Rose gets forward to support the attack and the left-back's low cross is heading for substitute Charlie Austin right in the danger zone.
However, Forest centre-back Kelvin Wilson gets there just ahead of the front man and manages to divert the ball past his own keeper an into the corner.
81 mins: McGovern aims a deep corner right on to the head of Sean Morrison, and the substitute's effort is heading for the back of the net until replacement Forest keeper Karl Darlow tips it over the bar.
90 mins: Jonathan Douglas is brought down just outside the area.
Michael Timlin has the chance from the resulting free-kick to put the result beyond any doubt but slams his effort outrageously high and wide.
TOWN (4-4-2): David Lucas (Phil Smith 46); Kevin Amankwaah, Scott Cuthbert, Lecsinel Jean-Francois, Michael Rose (Sean Morrison 68); Jon-Paul McGovern (Callum Kennedy 86), Jonathan Douglas (c), David Prutton (Alan O'Brien 72), David Ball (Billy Bodin 75); Thomas Dossevi (Charlie Austin 46), Vincent Pericard (Michael Timlin 61)
Sub not used: Will Evans
FOREST (4-4-2): Lee Camp (c) (Karl Darlow 79); Chris Gunter (Brendan Moloney 75), Luke Chambers, Kelvin Wilson (Kieran Freeman 84), Chris Cohen; Gareth McCleary, Radoslaw Majewski (Julian Bennett 71), Lewis McGugan (Matt Thornhill 61), Guy Moussi (Robbie Gibbons 79); Robert Earnshaw (Nialle Rodney 66), Dele Adebola (Tom Mullen 79)
Subs not used:
REFEREE: Andy Woolmer (Northamptonshire)
ATTENDANCE: 3,799
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London Red, says...
4:26pm Sat 31 Jul 10
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I guess people at the game can update us if they were there or not.
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
4:34pm Sat 31 Jul 10
ve to know how it can be so different :-)
Hopefully Ferry and Caddis have signed but they weren't going to play as you say London Red. Lets hope there aren't any last minute issues about personal terms
umpcah, Chippenham says...
4:37pm Sat 31 Jul 10
SAPFanSTFC wrote:It is understood that personal terms have been agreed with medicals to follow on Monday. No need for worry !
STFC site says their second goal took a wicked deflection after a mis-hit speculative strike from 25yds and trickled past the wrong-footed Lucas - here it says the slightest of deflections.......lo ve to know how it can be so different :-) Hopefully Ferry and Caddis have signed but they weren't going to play as you say London Red. Lets hope there aren't any last minute issues about personal terms
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
4:38pm Sat 31 Jul 10
3-2 and sounds good given a friend at the match
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
4:50pm Sat 31 Jul 10
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
4:55pm Sat 31 Jul 10
SAPFanSTFC wrote:Sorry - Thanks Umpcah!!
Excellent - thanks London Red - ....thought the medicals were yesterday hence was even concerned there may have been a problem with one of the results. 3-2 and sounds good given a friend at the match
Terryswin, Swindon says...
4:56pm Sat 31 Jul 10
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
4:59pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Was he injured or is it the end off his trial?
swindonmatt, leominster says...
5:00pm Sat 31 Jul 10
London Red, says...
5:02pm Sat 31 Jul 10
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This would be a striker or winger depending on where you put Ball.
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Saying that a brace from Dossiva should have done him no harm. Though I'll wait for those there to comment on his overall game. If he were to sign we would have the 22.
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We would then still have 4 loan spots to add depth and competition where the youth like Bodin are included.
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
5:02pm Sat 31 Jul 10
A good experienced head with a positive personal outlook from what I'm aware.
mattytown, Somerset says...
5:16pm Sat 31 Jul 10
swindonmatt, leominster says...
5:21pm Sat 31 Jul 10
umpcah, Chippenham says...
5:23pm Sat 31 Jul 10
mattytown wrote:Let`s hope that Thomas enjoys life at the CG like Si Ferry does. As Danny pointed out the scoring of two goals against Forest may have convinced him and his agent that he is Championship quality. What does shine through is that the Town are looking to acquire quality players. COME ON YOU REDS !
Danny says he wants to sign Thomas Dossevi and will be chatting to his agents tonight and possibly strike a deal. Danny wants him to stay so lets home he wants to join us...
umpcah, Chippenham says...
5:27pm Sat 31 Jul 10
swindonmatt wrote:As a friend once told me "things aren`t in the bag until they`re in the bag " ! Medicals still have to be passed and occasionally there are surprise results. Try not to worry ! !
just heard danny on bbc swindon and he said ferry and caddis wasnt 100% that they will b coming so bit worried now.
Moonraker1983, Southampton says...
5:41pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Rose and Prutton both look like great signings so well done DW there.
Bodin looked a little out of his confort zone, was muscled about a bit, Morrison did well at the back when he came on, nearly caught in possession though.
O'Brien continues to amaze me that he makes the team, another player we should be looking to offload.
JPM and JD solid as ever, Kev and JFL both played well in defence. Ball looks a class above everyone else. Exciting times to be a Town fan. And with Ferry and Caddis to add to that lot, roll on next week!
COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS, SWINDON says...
5:45pm Sat 31 Jul 10
swindonmatt, leominster says...
5:57pm Sat 31 Jul 10
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
6:08pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?.
and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players..
so up yours
umpcah, Chippenham says...
6:09pm Sat 31 Jul 10
swindonmatt wrote:Matt : After what happened at the eleventh hour with Robinson Danny may have just been cautious. Let`s hope so ! We also have to remember that the players are not local and are probably toing and froing at the moment, houses to be looked at, etc.
did anyone else hear wilsons interview after the match iam pretty sure he said ferry caddis deal wasnt 100% done and wasnt sure if he would have them 4 the poole game.
umpcah, Chippenham says...
6:11pm Sat 31 Jul 10
TownEnd D.Romain wrote:Pretty poor in both cases apparently ! Rest assured that with a full squad Danny wont be playing off-form players.
How did PERICARD and O BRIEN play??. Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?. and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players.. so up yours
ICDeadpeople, Swindon says...
6:12pm Sat 31 Jul 10
He looked so comfortable on the ball, had good positional sense, a good turn of pace, tracked back to help the midfield and certainly knows where the back of the net is!
I'd like to think that he didn't play the second half because he was in the boardroom signing a contract.
Also, I thought Ball was a great player, reminds me of a certain Danny Ward.
COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS, SWINDON says...
6:18pm Sat 31 Jul 10
TownEnd D.Romain wrote:well personally I thought Pericard was awful, and O`Brien did well. Prutton was voted man of the match, and I thought new guy Rose played well with some really good overlapping runs down the left.
How did PERICARD and O BRIEN play??.
Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?.
and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players..
so up yours
Also I must praise Lecsinel Jean-Francois at centre of defense.
Overall was very good performance from the lads.
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
6:25pm Sat 31 Jul 10
umpcah wrote:Hope your right mate...
TownEnd D.Romain wrote: How did PERICARD and O BRIEN play??. Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?. and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players.. so up yoursPretty poor in both cases apparently ! Rest assured that with a full squad Danny wont be playing off-form players.
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
6:29pm Sat 31 Jul 10
COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS wrote:Did O"Brien manage to get any crosses in2 the box this time or was it same old thing like sprint down the wing then mess up with the final ball
TownEnd D.Romain wrote: How did PERICARD and O BRIEN play??. Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?. and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players.. so up yourswell personally I thought Pericard was awful, and O`Brien did well. Prutton was voted man of the match, and I thought new guy Rose played well with some really good overlapping runs down the left. Also I must praise Lecsinel Jean-Francois at centre of defense. Overall was very good performance from the lads.
mallorca, Port De Soller Mallorca says...
6:33pm Sat 31 Jul 10
as to Ferry and caddis what a saga early in week all was kosher now DW says aint100% time for Club to come clean maybe wages are not within budget and no way will AF get us in the sh/t with over paid players.
Still would be nice to know somebody says they will be introduced next week?????
Tha saga continues
RamsburyRed, Ramsbury says...
6:34pm Sat 31 Jul 10
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Dossevi surely worth a contract - some good play and two goals into the bargain, the header a very good finish. I hope we can sign him.
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Vince continues to frustrate me - I'm sure he has far more ability than he shows, I'd like to see him get on to the ball, use his strength and generally get into the game more.
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Not sure about O'Brien - there were some good touches, but I can't understand why he drifts inside so much. I would have thought if ever a player should have chalk on his boots, it should be him.
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Generally a pleasing performance, personally I thought JD was Man of the Match, and Cuthbert, JFL, JPM and Amankwaah all did well too.
onecharliehenry, says...
6:46pm Sat 31 Jul 10
RamsburyRed, Ramsbury says...
6:53pm Sat 31 Jul 10
westburyred, Westbury says...
6:58pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Thought that thomas dessovi was very impressive and really scored a bullet of a header,its a pity he didnt play the whole game instead of the very poor pericard.
Overall am really exited by what seems a quality team danny w has put together,and with ferry and caddis playing this should be a very good season.
WiltshireLeppard, Swindon says...
7:01pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Jay DeMerit would be a good signing, in my opinion, as he's a no-nonsense central defender with Premiership experience and a former USA International.
Heard a rumour that a deal for Jason Jarrett may be in the offing, if O'Brien moves on plus Luke Freeman of Arsenal could be loaned in along with fellow Gooner Thomas Cruise.
It's all starting to come together nicely for us...
mikek, Swindon says...
7:08pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Sounded like a decent game by all accounts with some good performances with plenty of focus on the new striker who must have done his chances the power of good to earn a contract with those two goals. I hope he does in fact as it will kick Pericard up the backside and hopefully get him playing. Obrien I am not sure about with previous club fans stating the obvious, as we have witnessed lots of pace but not much else and forgets to take the ball with him. Again hope he can come good but with so many players getting released from clubs there should be plenty of replacements available should he not. Can't wait for next Saturday with hopefully the two Celtic lads on board.
docklander2, swindon says...
7:22pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Dossevi spent the 2nd half in the directors area and looked Happy enough.
The second half was spoilt in the last 20 mins due to the number of changes by both sides and nothing meaningful was gained by supporters by way of assessment of players and the match fitness of them. Obrien was his usual self and it is difficult to say if he has improved. Paynter isn't match fit yet and will get better than he was in the 2nd half today.
Prospects look Good this season all in and thats without the 2 from Celtic.
grimreaperswife, Swindon says...
7:33pm Sat 31 Jul 10
mallorca wrote:swindonmatt is talking bull****, fitton said personal terms are agreed and the medicals are taking place monday stop crappin your pants over nothing mallorca. you seem desperate to put a negative spin on any positive news just **** off and support some rubbish mallorca side. theres no saga we went through proper negotiations with celtic they agreed, ferry and caddis will be down here monday...simples
Good effort and work out as to the striker Dossevi could be good if fits in with club wages structure???
as to Ferry and caddis what a saga early in week all was kosher now DW says aint100% time for Club to come clean maybe wages are not within budget and no way will AF get us in the sh/t with over paid players.
Still would be nice to know somebody says they will be introduced next week?????
Tha saga continues
docklander2, swindon says...
7:33pm Sat 31 Jul 10
grim reapers gone, swindon says...
7:43pm Sat 31 Jul 10
umpcah wrote:mirek will slaughter you for this comment, he thinks pericrap is great.
TownEnd D.Romain wrote: How did PERICARD and O BRIEN play??. Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?. and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players.. so up yoursPretty poor in both cases apparently ! Rest assured that with a full squad Danny wont be playing off-form players.
sorry tho umpcah wilson will play pericrap, as i said previous he has got to justify signing him,thats the only blip on the team at the mo all others superb and cant wait till next week when the hard work starts to kick in
c.o.y.redzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzz
grim reapers gone, swindon says...
7:47pm Sat 31 Jul 10
mikek wrote:another time wasted article
Dossevi looks like Drogba in the pics and if he plays an 1/8 th as good he would be a great signing. Sounds Like Pericard and Obrien performed poorly but hopefully it was a case of them treating it to much as a freindly. No excuse though as I back Pericard to come good so I live or die by that sword. I have stuck my neck on the line for Big Vince so I will be knocking on his door if he don't shape up soon but I will need a step ladder to punch him on the nose. Sounded like a decent game by all accounts with some good performances with plenty of focus on the new striker who must have done his chances the power of good to earn a contract with those two goals. I hope he does in fact as it will kick Pericard up the backside and hopefully get him playing. Obrien I am not sure about with previous club fans stating the obvious, as we have witnessed lots of pace but not much else and forgets to take the ball with him. Again hope he can come good but with so many players getting released from clubs there should be plenty of replacements available should he not. Can't wait for next Saturday with hopefully the two Celtic lads on board.
stick to knitting
avo, swindon says...
7:49pm Sat 31 Jul 10
To some of us that comes as no surprise, to the constant knockers, time to shut up......for now.
Viva Lescinel, Viva lescinel...
He put the swindon first,
we hope he's here for years,
Viva Lescinel.
mikek, Swindon says...
7:51pm Sat 31 Jul 10
grim reapers gone wrote:GRG why don't you read my posting at 7.08 this evening you trouble maker.
umpcah wrote:mirek will slaughter you for this comment, he thinks pericrap is great. sorry tho umpcah wilson will play pericrap, as i said previous he has got to justify signing him,thats the only blip on the team at the mo all others superb and cant wait till next week when the hard work starts to kick in c.o.y.redzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzTownEnd D.Romain wrote: How did PERICARD and O BRIEN play??. Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?. and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players.. so up yoursPretty poor in both cases apparently ! Rest assured that with a full squad Danny wont be playing off-form players.
mallorca, Port De Soller Mallorca says...
7:56pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Just hope all happens and as far aas I go supported town since 61 during bad and good times so to say //// off is a bit strond and i dont support mallorca it's Real madrid got season ticket they do deal for OAP's and flights also discounted by 60% if mallorcian resident.
So good luck Town and lets hope all the hype about SF and PC are incorrect
madterrier, says...
8:00pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Delighted with Ferry/Caddis signings, but we now have players who would expect to/good enough to start (Ferry/Prutton/Caddi
s/JP/Manks) competing for 2-3 places, while we are unsure whether or not we have really replaced two key players in key positions - Paynter and Greer.
I cannot see how Pericard for Paynter and LJF for Greer have strengthended the team, otherwise DW would have picked them first last season.
That's all I'm uneasy about.
mikek, Swindon says...
8:03pm Sat 31 Jul 10
grimreaperswife wrote:Blimey the wife talks more CR*P than the old man which is saying something, but it definitely runs in the family what a pair of goons. I would say both brain dead but you would have had to have one to start with.
mallorca wrote: Good effort and work out as to the striker Dossevi could be good if fits in with club wages structure??? as to Ferry and caddis what a saga early in week all was kosher now DW says aint100% time for Club to come clean maybe wages are not within budget and no way will AF get us in the sh/t with over paid players. Still would be nice to know somebody says they will be introduced next week????? Tha saga continuesswindonmatt is talking bull****, fitton said personal terms are agreed and the medicals are taking place monday stop crappin your pants over nothing mallorca. you seem desperate to put a negative spin on any positive news just **** off and support some rubbish mallorca side. theres no saga we went through proper negotiations with celtic they agreed, ferry and caddis will be down here monday...simples
swindonmatt, leominster says...
8:05pm Sat 31 Jul 10
grimreaperswife wrote:4 the record if you had listend 2 wilson in his interview he said deal not 100% done yet and didnt know if he would have them availible 4 the poole game so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. you and your partner talk the most cr*p on this site.
mallorca wrote: Good effort and work out as to the striker Dossevi could be good if fits in with club wages structure??? as to Ferry and caddis what a saga early in week all was kosher now DW says aint100% time for Club to come clean maybe wages are not within budget and no way will AF get us in the sh/t with over paid players. Still would be nice to know somebody says they will be introduced next week????? Tha saga continuesswindonmatt is talking bull****, fitton said personal terms are agreed and the medicals are taking place monday stop crappin your pants over nothing mallorca. you seem desperate to put a negative spin on any positive news just **** off and support some rubbish mallorca side. theres no saga we went through proper negotiations with celtic they agreed, ferry and caddis will be down here monday...simples
grimreaperswife, Swindon says...
8:28pm Sat 31 Jul 10
swindonmatt wrote:well obviously it's not 100% because they dont have their medicals until monday just like fitton said you dumb ****. but the way you said it was an attempt to unsettle the fans and get them worried just like so many other ***** on this site.
grimreaperswife wrote:4 the record if you had listend 2 wilson in his interview he said deal not 100% done yet and didnt know if he would have them availible 4 the poole game so stick that in your pipe and smoke it. you and your partner talk the most cr*p on this site.
mallorca wrote: Good effort and work out as to the striker Dossevi could be good if fits in with club wages structure??? as to Ferry and caddis what a saga early in week all was kosher now DW says aint100% time for Club to come clean maybe wages are not within budget and no way will AF get us in the sh/t with over paid players. Still would be nice to know somebody says they will be introduced next week????? Tha saga continuesswindonmatt is talking bull****, fitton said personal terms are agreed and the medicals are taking place monday stop crappin your pants over nothing mallorca. you seem desperate to put a negative spin on any positive news just **** off and support some rubbish mallorca side. theres no saga we went through proper negotiations with celtic they agreed, ferry and caddis will be down here monday...simples
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
8:29pm Sat 31 Jul 10
grim reapers gone wrote:Keep up the good work grim reaper you make this site worth reading
umpcah wrote:mirek will slaughter you for this comment, he thinks pericrap is great. sorry tho umpcah wilson will play pericrap, as i said previous he has got to justify signing him,thats the only blip on the team at the mo all others superb and cant wait till next week when the hard work starts to kick in c.o.y.redzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzTownEnd D.Romain wrote: How did PERICARD and O BRIEN play??. Sorry to keep on about these 2 but i do fell that they make are team very very adverage?. and be4 anyone starts slating me, this is my opinion of the 2 players.. so up yoursPretty poor in both cases apparently ! Rest assured that with a full squad Danny wont be playing off-form players.
PS
I DONT GIVE A DONALD DUCK WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT MY POST..
We are all intitled say what we think and if others dont like it then so be it.
ciclosporindorset, says...
9:22pm Sat 31 Jul 10
You are so right you ..... I used to stand in the townend in the mid 60's. Are you the so and so who used to flick my ear and shove me down the terrace because I was a young teenager and not with my dad? Just interested!
Baguette, Patcham says...
9:50pm Sat 31 Jul 10
I know we all like to have a laugh on here but I'm very disappointed with the homophobic comments.
I quite agree Mancrobin. As a Brighton fan living in Paris i find this kind of uneducated behaviour old hat. Really shows some of the English underclasses up for what they really are. I imagine most of this lot have been on the Jeremy Kyle show more than once. Good luck next week Swindon. We look a decent outfit. Watch your back(nudge nudge wink wink!).
Stickshaker, Paris says...
10:16pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Oi Den!, Swindon says...
10:24pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Baguette wrote:Steady on. I think you'd find that "most of this lot" would disapprove as much as you do. I'm not averse to a bit of coarse humour but I found those posts embarrassingly unfunny. The majority of contributors to this site post in a thoughtful and considerate manner, even though we tend to disagree quite a lot. Don't tar "most" with the brush of a few.
Mancrobin Swindon wrote: I know we all like to have a laugh on here but I'm very disappointed with the homophobic comments. I quite agree Mancrobin. As a Brighton fan living in Paris i find this kind of uneducated behaviour old hat. Really shows some of the English underclasses up for what they really are. I imagine most of this lot have been on the Jeremy Kyle show more than once. Good luck next week Swindon. We look a decent outfit. Watch your back(nudge nudge wink wink!).
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
11:44pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Sorry mate not me im not like that plus i was born in 1970..
steve., brentford says...
12:07am Sun 1 Aug 10
TownEnd D.Romain wrote:old fooker haha ps grims got more names on here than youve got moans im off to bed stop worrying and leave that to our management its what there paid for.CMON u REDZZZZZZZ.
HA HA... Sorry mate not me im not like that plus i was born in 1970..
we r going up, says...
1:26am Sun 1 Aug 10
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=wCIEb3Hkg
Ws
London Red, says...
9:09am Sun 1 Aug 10
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Remember Billy had a one off season. Prior to last season he had only scored 19 in 2 seasons. Also lots were saying he should go and keep Corr as he was more of a goal threat if you looked at goals per game.
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Also VP was injured so didn't get the chance to really stake a claim. Finally VP actually had a better goal per game ratio than Billy prior to last season.
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So if DW could get a set up to suit Billy he could do the same for VP.
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Also before last season JPM couldn't even get a game let alone be one of our main players and the league's top assist player.
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This shows players can step up so JFL and VP could do the same.
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Finally, good teams are that teams! We now look better as a team. We are more balanced and experienced so this should see us improve results.
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Also our bench is a million times stronger so gives more options to change things than last season again making us stronger. They often say you tell how good a team is by it's bench!
madterrier, says...
10:27am Sun 1 Aug 10
If you think that Pericard is better than Paynter, then great - that's your opinion. If you think that LJF is better then Greer - then that's also your opinion.
My opinion is that the team is weaker with LJF and Pericard in for Greer and Paynter. If you don't like me having my own opinion - then tough.
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
10:40am Sun 1 Aug 10
steve. wrote:HOWS IT HANGING MATE.
TownEnd D.Romain wrote: HA HA... Sorry mate not me im not like that plus i was born in 1970..old fooker haha ps grims got more names on here than youve got moans im off to bed stop worrying and leave that to our management its what there paid for.CMON u REDZZZZZZZ.
Dont talk 2 me about moaning.
REMEMBER i live with the 4 women from HELL Ha ha..
...........(dont tell them will ya)...........
Oi Den!, Swindon says...
11:12am Sun 1 Aug 10
madterrier wrote:I admire London Red's loyalty to all Town players and the manager. But it's stretching a point to suggest that Wilson could find a set up to suit Pericard. I just don't know what Pericard's strengths are because I haven't seen any. On the other hand, Paynter's success last season was hardly a complete surprise. He had done his bit in 2008/09, working his ar5e off and providing the perfect foil for Cox. Before anyone has a go at me for being a "Pericard hater", I would just say that I wish all Town players well. I simply base my opinion on what I've seen - not what I hope will happen.
London Red - it's very, very simple to say that. It's called an opinion. If you think that Pericard is better than Paynter, then great - that's your opinion. If you think that LJF is better then Greer - then that's also your opinion. My opinion is that the team is weaker with LJF and Pericard in for Greer and Paynter. If you don't like me having my own opinion - then tough.
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
12:11pm Sun 1 Aug 10
docklander2 wrote:Just watched some clips of
Dossevi is definitely worth a contract if we don't someone else will give him one.Though he may now seek other places as he really shone. Pericard has lost weight but still has a lot of learning to do. Rose was impressive and often went foreward with style and nearly got a goal. We missed another 2 goal chance one hitting the bar the other just wide. Dossevi spent the 2nd half in the directors area and looked Happy enough. The second half was spoilt in the last 20 mins due to the number of changes by both sides and nothing meaningful was gained by supporters by way of assessment of players and the match fitness of them. Obrien was his usual self and it is difficult to say if he has improved. Paynter isn't match fit yet and will get better than he was in the 2nd half today. Prospects look Good this season all in and thats without the 2 from Celtic.
Thomas Dossevi on youtube....
he might be 31 but he likes to run at players and keeps the ball very well.
I think that he would be a GOOD SIGNING...
Lets just hope that everything can be sorted out...
mikek, Swindon says...
12:28pm Sun 1 Aug 10
Oi Den! wrote:I don't think London Red is saying that LJF and Pericard are better than the players they have replaced but more like they could be if given the time that others in the past have been given Paynter included. If we acted instantly on replacing players who were basically crap or not performing then JPM, Amankwah, Paynter, etc etc and even Fjortoft some time ago,would have been shown the door long before the time they were here. London Red I believe is saying what I have been saying and that given time Pericard could turn things around, and as I said the other day we beat of quite a few clubs for his signature and just read opposing fans comments when he previously played against them with other clubs, he literally destroyed them so he must have something. This is not to say he has shown any of that here and as he looks totally off form and has been injured most of it. I and a few fans believe he can come good as Danny must feel, Paynter was nothing when he came here and got better and better. I heard many of the fans on this forum and at games slag Billy off as he was nick-named "Barn Door" and even at the start of last season. Amankwah was awful under Malpas and was getting slated and he has got better under Danny and the coaches. Yes I agree totally that its all opinions and that's why we are on here to discuss them just like we would with our mates down the pub.Problem is some morons on here have to get personal and only their opinions count and they like to wind people up don't they GRG.
madterrier wrote: London Red - it's very, very simple to say that. It's called an opinion. If you think that Pericard is better than Paynter, then great - that's your opinion. If you think that LJF is better then Greer - then that's also your opinion. My opinion is that the team is weaker with LJF and Pericard in for Greer and Paynter. If you don't like me having my own opinion - then tough.I admire London Red's loyalty to all Town players and the manager. But it's stretching a point to suggest that Wilson could find a set up to suit Pericard. I just don't know what Pericard's strengths are because I haven't seen any. On the other hand, Paynter's success last season was hardly a complete surprise. He had done his bit in 2008/09, working his ar5e off and providing the perfect foil for Cox. Before anyone has a go at me for being a "Pericard hater", I would just say that I wish all Town players well. I simply base my opinion on what I've seen - not what I hope will happen.
I agree that with Greer we will miss his leadership so that is hard to replace but yet again there were many fans knocking him over his many mistakes. I heard many fans slag him OFF at Charlton when he got sent off and they thought we looked better as a team after that also which proved correct by the result. No one is actually right or wrong in these debates and that is the beauty of this forum lets see how others feel.
madterrier, says...
1:08pm Sun 1 Aug 10
ng/consolidation/bri
ng the youngsters through type of season.
But I thought in AF's master plan, this was to be the year....
So I was hoping for improvements.
mikek, Swindon says...
1:29pm Sun 1 Aug 10
madterrier wrote:Yes that's a fair point and a good one too which was all to do with this 5 year plan and hit the ground running this season. I do actually agree that we could be exposed at the back with two inexperienced centre backs in the the three, which makes us weaker on paper. What is the answer well I would say a better player than Greer which would possibly need to be a good leader also which we have not got at present. That means we need to bring is some experience. Losing Greer was a surprise but I asked myself could we replace him and my answer was yes but rather thinking along the lines of bringing someone in. There is rumours of the Celtic centre back on loan so it seems Danny is looking. I do not feel three is enough for two positions so Danny must act.
That's fine, if we're in a development/rebuildi ng/consolidation/bri ng the youngsters through type of season. But I thought in AF's master plan, this was to be the year.... So I was hoping for improvements.
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
1:49pm Sun 1 Aug 10
madterrier wrote:Development/Rebuildi
That's fine, if we're in a development/rebuildi ng/consolidation/bri ng the youngsters through type of season. But I thought in AF's master plan, this was to be the year.... So I was hoping for improvements.
ng???
Their still drawing up the blue print 4 that one.so dont hold ya breath,
iAfter all we now what the councis likel..
In my eyes we need to get it right on the pitch first,then the rest will follow
What youth players will play?
NO IDEA.i think none,
maybe morrison and thats it.
I sometimes wonder why we bother with a youth set up..
Who was the last youth player to make long lasting impresstion in the first team?
AF master plan changed from
3 to a 5 year plan.
Sometimes in buisness you have 2 go that one step forward and hope that it pays off.
Dont 4get AF and co wasted the first year when they put malpas in charge,and we have only just sorted that out.ie DEADWOOD PLAYERS and we had 23 of them
All we need is a c/back and a striker
unless Thomas Dossevi signs then who nows..
London Red, says...
2:51pm Sun 1 Aug 10
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You say you would expect improvements. Do you honestly think we haven't?
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People were moaning that we relied to heavy on loanees last season yet this year we only have 1. Yet we have improved the SQUAD!
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Easton has been replaced with Prutton
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Sherman has been replaced with Rose
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Ward has been replaced with Ball and all reports suggest he could be even better.
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The main point was the bench. This year it is Lilly to be made up of Caddis, Ferry, Timlin, O'Brien and Dossiva. We never had that much quality and options last year.
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That clearly shows we have therefore improved. Plus we haven't finished i.e. a bid is in for Ritchie and bids for 3 Bolton lads on loan!
London Red, says...
2:55pm Sun 1 Aug 10
madterrier, says...
3:03pm Sun 1 Aug 10
madterrier, says...
3:03pm Sun 1 Aug 10
madterrier, says...
3:15pm Sun 1 Aug 10
I said that I valued Ferry higher than Greer, and you disagreed with that.
I said that I think Paynter is better than Pericard and Greer is better than LJF, and you disagreed with that.
I hardly 'missed your point' - I just hold a different view. You seem to be talking about players that 'could' step up to the mark this season or 'might improve'; I am giving my view as to whether the team is stronger or weaker with those two player exchanges.
Read my subsequent post. I think our expectations are going to be re-managed by our leaders. I am all in favour of giving younger players a chance, otherwise there's no point in having a youth system. But you do that when you're rebuilding or developing the team (Town End - I was referring to the team, never even thought about the ground!). If we're going to go one better than last year then we need to improve or at least replace key players. In my opinion, centre back and centre forward are key positions, but no doubt you will want to disagree with that as well...
mr malpas, far far away says...
4:07pm Sun 1 Aug 10
Oi Den!, Swindon says...
4:13pm Sun 1 Aug 10
mikek wrote:Mike, I think your point is well made. The question that concerns me though, is how long you should give a player to show that he can come good. If Pericard plays in the first game and has a stormer, I will be as pleased as anyone, and I'll take the "I told you sos" with good grace. But what if he shows nothing in the first few weeks of the season? I know this all sounds very negative but if we expect to be promotion candidates, I think we should be looking for more than players who might come good at some point. On the general point about opinions etc, I agree entirely that personal abuse is out of order and has no place on here. Long live argument - but let's keep it civilised.
Oi Den! wrote:I don't think London Red is saying that LJF and Pericard are better than the players they have replaced but more like they could be if given the time that others in the past have been given Paynter included. If we acted instantly on replacing players who were basically crap or not performing then JPM, Amankwah, Paynter, etc etc and even Fjortoft some time ago,would have been shown the door long before the time they were here. London Red I believe is saying what I have been saying and that given time Pericard could turn things around, and as I said the other day we beat of quite a few clubs for his signature and just read opposing fans comments when he previously played against them with other clubs, he literally destroyed them so he must have something. This is not to say he has shown any of that here and as he looks totally off form and has been injured most of it. I and a few fans believe he can come good as Danny must feel, Paynter was nothing when he came here and got better and better. I heard many of the fans on this forum and at games slag Billy off as he was nick-named "Barn Door" and even at the start of last season. Amankwah was awful under Malpas and was getting slated and he has got better under Danny and the coaches. Yes I agree totally that its all opinions and that's why we are on here to discuss them just like we would with our mates down the pub.Problem is some morons on here have to get personal and only their opinions count and they like to wind people up don't they GRG. I agree that with Greer we will miss his leadership so that is hard to replace but yet again there were many fans knocking him over his many mistakes. I heard many fans slag him OFF at Charlton when he got sent off and they thought we looked better as a team after that also which proved correct by the result. No one is actually right or wrong in these debates and that is the beauty of this forum lets see how others feel.madterrier wrote: London Red - it's very, very simple to say that. It's called an opinion. If you think that Pericard is better than Paynter, then great - that's your opinion. If you think that LJF is better then Greer - then that's also your opinion. My opinion is that the team is weaker with LJF and Pericard in for Greer and Paynter. If you don't like me having my own opinion - then tough.I admire London Red's loyalty to all Town players and the manager. But it's stretching a point to suggest that Wilson could find a set up to suit Pericard. I just don't know what Pericard's strengths are because I haven't seen any. On the other hand, Paynter's success last season was hardly a complete surprise. He had done his bit in 2008/09, working his ar5e off and providing the perfect foil for Cox. Before anyone has a go at me for being a "Pericard hater", I would just say that I wish all Town players well. I simply base my opinion on what I've seen - not what I hope will happen.
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
4:32pm Sun 1 Aug 10
madterrier wrote:WHAT ME!!!!!..OW
London Red - you seem to argue with anything I post (which is fine - I don't have a problem with contrary views) I said that I valued Ferry higher than Greer, and you disagreed with that. I said that I think Paynter is better than Pericard and Greer is better than LJF, and you disagreed with that. I hardly 'missed your point' - I just hold a different view. You seem to be talking about players that 'could' step up to the mark this season or 'might improve'; I am giving my view as to whether the team is stronger or weaker with those two player exchanges. Read my subsequent post. I think our expectations are going to be re-managed by our leaders. I am all in favour of giving younger players a chance, otherwise there's no point in having a youth system. But you do that when you're rebuilding or developing the team (Town End - I was referring to the team, never even thought about the ground!). If we're going to go one better than last year then we need to improve or at least replace key players. In my opinion, centre back and centre forward are key positions, but no doubt you will want to disagree with that as well...
Sorry madte....
but i never disagred with you.
I thought that u was on about AF and his plans 4 STFC as a hole.
(or was you.but you got board and thought sod it i will have a pop just 4 somthing 2do)lol ha ha
if you think i was out of order or somthing like then im VERY VERY SORRY...
After all i find your post rather good at times
steve., brentford says...
4:33pm Sun 1 Aug 10
TownEnd D.Romain wrote:Alright Daz, i will be with down in a couple of weeks i will give you a shout, cant make next week unfortunately i will be in Scotland fishing.But I'm taking my lap-top so i can keep tabs on the score.I think the teams looking good mate a couple more and we will be ready and also have the loan market to use as we like,all good stuff for us Town fans.I will stick my neck on the block here and give my opinion on a player that everyone seems to have written-off O`Brian i believe will terrorise alot of teams in this division if of course we see the end to his countless injuries.Of all the players we have it is him that i foresee making the biggest improvement controversial i know but that's my opinion.Other people`s opinions welcome.
steve. wrote:HOWS IT HANGING MATE. Dont talk 2 me about moaning. REMEMBER i live with the 4 women from HELL Ha ha.. ...........(dont tell them will ya)...........TownEnd D.Romain wrote: HA HA... Sorry mate not me im not like that plus i was born in 1970..old fooker haha ps grims got more names on here than youve got moans im off to bed stop worrying and leave that to our management its what there paid for.CMON u REDZZZZZZZ.
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
4:51pm Sun 1 Aug 10
Sorry 4 SHOUTING...
Hope your right obout O`Brian,
because if he is then we will have a good shout...
SEE YA SOON MATE!!!!!!
London Red, says...
6:20pm Sun 1 Aug 10
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I said that players values depend on the buyers desires and sellers willingness. Obviously Brighton wanted Greer and we were not desperate to sell, thus his price was inflated.
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Therefore, as we have now seen in real life that doesn't mean we have to pay overthe odds for Ferry, especially as Celtic wanted to sell to pay for Lennon's spending spree.
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That does not mean I think one is worth more!
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Read my posts again and you will never see me say VP or JFL were or are better.
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What I actually said was the loss of Billy is over hyped. His goals were a one off so there was mo guarantee he would net 25+ again. Also about 10 of his goals were pens and as we have seen from shoot outs we have plenty of others who can take them.
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Also Charlie is here for the whole season so is our main man this year. We played about 20 before he arrived last year.
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Then we have my main point, that the TEAM has improved. This should mean we no longer need 2 or 3 goals to win a game. So don't need 2 20 goal forwards, no other team has that!
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It's not a case of simply disagreeing with you. It's just on those 2 areas you seem to think it is black and white, whereas there are lots of other factors to be looked at.
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As for the point about how long should players be given. Depends on the player. If VP is playing a Heskey role as long as he is holding the ball up, winning corners and free kicks or involved in the build up like on Sat then goals should not be an issue.
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If however, he is not doing that then a 3 game run would be reasonable before switching to Ball or Dossiva up top.
grim reapers gone, swindon says...
6:41pm Sun 1 Aug 10
mikek wrote:mirek lets put it straight i dont hate pericard i just think hes a crap player, and most comments on here back me up its only you and london red who thinks he needs time,sorry to sound boring but he has played for.
Oi Den! wrote:I don't think London Red is saying that LJF and Pericard are better than the players they have replaced but more like they could be if given the time that others in the past have been given Paynter included. If we acted instantly on replacing players who were basically crap or not performing then JPM, Amankwah, Paynter, etc etc and even Fjortoft some time ago,would have been shown the door long before the time they were here. London Red I believe is saying what I have been saying and that given time Pericard could turn things around, and as I said the other day we beat of quite a few clubs for his signature and just read opposing fans comments when he previously played against them with other clubs, he literally destroyed them so he must have something. This is not to say he has shown any of that here and as he looks totally off form and has been injured most of it. I and a few fans believe he can come good as Danny must feel, Paynter was nothing when he came here and got better and better. I heard many of the fans on this forum and at games slag Billy off as he was nick-named "Barn Door" and even at the start of last season. Amankwah was awful under Malpas and was getting slated and he has got better under Danny and the coaches. Yes I agree totally that its all opinions and that's why we are on here to discuss them just like we would with our mates down the pub.Problem is some morons on here have to get personal and only their opinions count and they like to wind people up don't they GRG. I agree that with Greer we will miss his leadership so that is hard to replace but yet again there were many fans knocking him over his many mistakes. I heard many fans slag him OFF at Charlton when he got sent off and they thought we looked better as a team after that also which proved correct by the result. No one is actually right or wrong in these debates and that is the beauty of this forum lets see how others feel.madterrier wrote: London Red - it's very, very simple to say that. It's called an opinion. If you think that Pericard is better than Paynter, then great - that's your opinion. If you think that LJF is better then Greer - then that's also your opinion. My opinion is that the team is weaker with LJF and Pericard in for Greer and Paynter. If you don't like me having my own opinion - then tough.I admire London Red's loyalty to all Town players and the manager. But it's stretching a point to suggest that Wilson could find a set up to suit Pericard. I just don't know what Pericard's strengths are because I haven't seen any. On the other hand, Paynter's success last season was hardly a complete surprise. He had done his bit in 2008/09, working his ar5e off and providing the perfect foil for Cox. Before anyone has a go at me for being a "Pericard hater", I would just say that I wish all Town players well. I simply base my opinion on what I've seen - not what I hope will happen.
here we go again
juventus
portsmouth
sheff unt
southampton
plymouth
stoke
carlise
this man should be hitting the back of the net for fun.......
ITS ONLY MY OPINION
i cant wait for next week, we signed a great player in prutton and all, so stop your childish digs at me and look at most comments surely most people cant be wrong?a few of the clicky ones on here give me stick, thats the ones with rose tinted glasses, but still they have an opinion and i respect that.
stroudred1959, stroud says...
7:38pm Sun 1 Aug 10
mikek, Swindon says...
7:57pm Sun 1 Aug 10
Moonraker1983, Southampton says...
7:57pm Sun 1 Aug 10
We know that Pericard is in to hold the ball up and play in the midfield, but he needs to start looking like he wants to be out there.
Against Forest he looked like he was unfit and couldn't be @rsed, we know he can play beause he has done so at international, but if he doesn't want to run himself into the ground and sweat blood for Town, I'd rather get someone who will.
Oi Den!, Swindon says...
8:00pm Sun 1 Aug 10
stroudred1959, stroud says...
8:03pm Sun 1 Aug 10
Moonraker1983 wrote:It was a pre-season friendly though, so it's probably best not to read to much in to it.If he starts against Brighton next week it will be interesting to see how he goes, I do however think we all need to get right behind him, and give him loads of encouragement rather than get on his back.
@StroudRed
We know that Pericard is in to hold the ball up and play in the midfield, but he needs to start looking like he wants to be out there.
Against Forest he looked like he was unfit and couldn't be @rsed, we know he can play beause he has done so at international, but if he doesn't want to run himself into the ground and sweat blood for Town, I'd rather get someone who will.
stroudred1959, stroud says...
8:12pm Sun 1 Aug 10
Oi Den! wrote:Yes, he has a great deal to prove in fairness.Lets hope he does the business.
Fair enough stroudred. If Pericard puts in that kind of shift and we're getting the goals from elsewhere, that should be good enough for all of us.
Tosh Man, in a bush says...
8:21pm Sun 1 Aug 10
Perricard IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH full stop. If he was , he wouldn't gone on a gradual slide from Juventus all the way down to Carlisle - top quality players don't end up at Carlisle FACT.
JFL WILL be good enough, is it too early to rely on him as the No1 centre back choice along side Cuthbert, perhaps but he certainly has a talent in centre back. I think we all have to understand that he did us a service last season and played at left back (possibly the toughest job on a football field) when he's not a left back in any stroke of the imagination. Of course he was shocking at times but so would Cuthbert have been if he was selected up front all season.
Didn't get to the Forest game but having watched some video of dussoev of whatever his name is, he looks like a very handy player and though I like the look of him alot I think his instant success means he'll now be thinking higher than league 1. If we get him then great he looks strong, quick and like he's got a trick or two.
I'd like to see a left winger. Get rid of Perricard. Have Ball, Austin and dossiev as 3 striker. (get rid of O'brien - NOT a footballer)
Remember, my word is god
mikek, Swindon says...
9:23pm Sun 1 Aug 10
stroudred1959, stroud says...
10:06pm Sun 1 Aug 10
mr malpas, far far away says...
10:09pm Sun 1 Aug 10
stroudred1959, stroud says...
10:26pm Sun 1 Aug 10
mr malpas wrote:Not a chance in this world,a wind up if ever I saw one.He will be our player tomorrow.
Hi lads i have just heard a heartbreaking rumor that ferry is signing for bristol city tomorrow. I hope to jesus its just a vicious rumour.
madterrier, says...
10:45pm Sun 1 Aug 10
London Red - Yawn. Don't bother reading my posts, and I promise not to read yours.
Thomas Dossevi scorer of two of Swindon's three goals against Forest
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avo, swindon says...
4:22pm Sat 31 Jul 10
Any news on what the situation is?