Watkin predicts cap on wages (From This Is Swindon Town FC)

Not related, but update on the triallists for those who've not seen...
http://www.skysports
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...And this is why he didn't sign for Dover...
ANDY HESSENTHALER has told doverathletic.com he will not be signing striker Hamdi Razak.

Hess could not agree personal terms with the talented big Frenchman.

The Whites player-boss said: "I loved the kid. He had talent and we were going to give an unproven player an opportunity in England.

"But sadly he wasn't realistic with the type of money he wanted. He was coming here for the money and that's not the type of player I want to sign at Dover Athletic. So we've washed our hands of that one and we move on."

FROM THE FORUM : Former Southampton trialist Ali Dia is signin for Swindon on Thursday morning for a club record fee of 50 pence from a Liberian pub team things are looking up. PRICELESS !

I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Mighty Reds wrote:
I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out!
Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

So we have our own Haitian...Its getting a little bit heroes round here!

'WATKINS PREDICTS CAP ON WAGES' - How fabulous!

Again more doom and gloom. We as fans appreciate what AF+board have done off the field.
Now is the time to make some money available to DW to ensure first survival in this division.
All we appear to get is ifs buts and maybes.
Before the hit squad winge at me over the years (since 61) i had season ticket, now I live out here but do hate what is happening to our club.
In one hand AF saved us, for what?????
we are nearly at the end of the transfere deadline and nothing appears to be coming in, trialists+ who knows you guys spend your hard earned cash supporting our club, I do fear something aint right.I hate being negative but it took ages to get a real manager now getting players is the problem.
Can the town not attract them??? or will AF not lay out cash for even loanees??
we hear so much speculation on TV and press can AF or DW come clean tell us bad or good news

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

stop posting on the adver forum, stop reading the adver posts and go over to the herald if its that much better. quite simple.

So it this why we cant get any new players in,As NW and CO say they think there might be a wage cap for league1 clubs.I HAVE A THOUGHT.Spend some money now (just to keep use up),then give DW the right backing in the summer then we might not have to worry about a wage cap in league1(HAS THERE 3 YEAR PLAN CHANGED,OR ISIT BANG ON TRACK).Me be thinking are board are trying to make excuses on why they dont spend any money one the team..
If you dont have the money to spend on the club then just come out with it.The fans would rather no the truth...TO BYE OR NOT TO BYE THAT IS THE QUESTION..?

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

Hmmmm.... nah not really. Lost my job at Ford a couple of weeks back, so pretty miserable.
Just hope Swindon start winning soon to cheer me up, otherwise I'll be havin to call the Samaritans!

Tite_Fitt wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

Hmmmm.... nah not really. Lost my job at Ford a couple of weeks back, so pretty miserable. Just hope Swindon start winning soon to cheer me up, otherwise I'll be havin to call the Samaritans!

Called them myself they told me there`s a big queue of Swindon fans already waiting,sorry to hear about the job mate it seems to be happening everywhere and the motor industry has been hit hard,oh well the jolly posters on here should keep in occupied for now, good luck looking for employment anyway.

I'm getting fed up with this....we were promised much better.
Do Messrs Wray and Arbib believe that Fitton and Watkins are doing a good job?
It is pointless having such a well run club off the field whilst dishing up such a poor product on the field.
Yes, they saved us from almost certain extinction, but a semi-pro club formed from the ashes would almost have as much appeal as the club in its present form.
Wouldn't it be ironic, if our so called saviours, led STFC out of league football and into the conference, would they continue to invest or would they close the club and walk away?
Perhaps Messrs Wray and Arbib need to explain to Mr Fitton that we need to spend a little bit to compete in a professional league, and if he's not prepared to do so, then perhaps it is time for him to return to running an amateur club.
With regards to Mr Watkins comments, in my opinion he needs to start bringing money into this club and not keep wishing for salary caps to do his job for him, although I do concede that this is probably a good way forward for all clubs at our level.

Good post!

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

Hmmmm.... nah not really. Lost my job at Ford a couple of weeks back, so pretty miserable. Just hope Swindon start winning soon to cheer me up, otherwise I'll be havin to call the Samaritans!

Called them myself they told me there`s a big queue of Swindon fans already waiting,sorry to hear about the job mate it seems to be happening everywhere and the motor industry has been hit hard,oh well the jolly posters on here should keep in occupied for now, good luck looking for employment anyway.

no point worrying. join the dole queue, theres going to be so many there soon it will be the norm. im alright though... for now!

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

Hmmmm.... nah not really. Lost my job at Ford a couple of weeks back, so pretty miserable. Just hope Swindon start winning soon to cheer me up, otherwise I'll be havin to call the Samaritans!

Called them myself they told me there`s a big queue of Swindon fans already waiting,sorry to hear about the job mate it seems to be happening everywhere and the motor industry has been hit hard,oh well the jolly posters on here should keep in occupied for now, good luck looking for employment anyway.

When i lost my job i thought things cant get any worse than what they are.HOW WRONG WAS I.Trying to get work is like telling fitton to spend some money on the team.But life is life and im skint but i can still smile and laugh.

To get to the original theme of this article, wages, I don't think half of them are worth the money they're being paid at the moment anyway.

If they were paid on effort most of them would have a big wage cut.

I think Hasney Aljofree deserves to be club captain and the highest earning player....

we won't have signed anyone come end of transfer window!!

Leo Sayer wrote:
we won't have signed anyone come end of transfer window!!

Lets hope we do, there's still a few days left. C'mon Fitton and earn a name for yrself..... last of the BIG spenders!

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Leo Sayer wrote: we won't have signed anyone come end of transfer window!!

Lets hope we do, there's still a few days left. C'mon Fitton and earn a name for yrself..... last of the BIG spenders!

i'm afraid i have to agree with Leo on this 1, DW said there would be someone in place before the Stockport match, no-one here, he says he''ll have 2 in place before Walsall match, sorry, as Leo said can't see it happenning

Since 1950 wrote:
To get to the original theme of this article, wages, I don't think half of them are worth the money they're being paid at the moment anyway. If they were paid on effort most of them would have a big wage cut.

spot on 1850. i think they should get a performance related contracts.ie if they dont perform well they dont get there full pay.(that should change a couple of players attitude)
How meny STFC players in the past 18mounths have we seen player on the pitch without care in the world.

Why are people saying Fitton needs to spend the money?

How do we know that he hasn't gone and put a bid of £250,000 in for someone and had it rejected?

Chairmans shouldn't go out and buy the players they want, that just **** off managers - we've seen that happen enough times, eg at Newcastle.

Fitton can only spend the money when DW wants it spent. If he doesn't want to buy a player, then Fitton doesn't have to.

I think bringing wage caps into League 1 and the Championship and the Premiership is a great idea. That will stop all these over paid players thinking they are worth millions and millions of pounds. Also thinking they should be on 100k per week. Just think if alot of these foreign consorteums pulled out of these top clubs no other investor could actually afford to take on these stupid salaries that they have agreed to pay the players. I hope it happens to be fair because the game is getting stupid! Also a wage cap gives the opportunity for other clubs like Swindon to complete when signing new players.ie if all these players in league 1 and 2 were on the same salary then its just comes down to choice over club. Or you could be aloud to spend over a certain amount over your allocated budget on 1 good player per club. Theres also loads of ifs and buts when signing players. Alot of people on this sight just think , oh yeah lets buy Kaka and Ronaldo they would be good signings. Firstly these players wouldnt even join Swindon if they were the last club on earth and secondly we couldnt afford their wages anyway. Even if we are after players from the lower divisions, this doesnt mean they would definately sign for Swindon just because weve put in an offer. Swindon have probably approached alot of players but at the end of the day, if the player doesnt want to join your club, what can you do about it. Thats definately got nothing to do with the board or manager, thats the players/agents choice! Alot of people have to get into the real world which is not many clubs of Swindons size in league 1 or 2 spend big money on new players nowadays. Even look at Southampton who are on the brink of admistration because of the huge wage bill they previously took on in order to attempt to get Premiership football. Another club Watford are also suffering. Both of these clubs now have to play alot of youth team players in the side just to survive! That football. You either spend a fortune on players and if it works for a few seasons your laughing or you spend a fortune of players and you get relegated and are still paying out big money on wages or you just keep a tight budget and at the end of the day , just be thankful you have got a football club to support in this day and age!

I don't think anyone is stupid enough to think we can sign Kaka or Ronaldo. I agree we need a well run club, a well run club is one which meets its financial obligations as well as its obligations to its fans. Would I rather be in Poxfords position watching dire non-league football but have a club? Not sure...

the only thing i would cap is the current squad of stfc at five pound a week!! thats all they are worth at the moment!! wilson got hell of a job keeping this lot up not sure he knew what he was letting himself into before he joined but bloody sure he knows he needs to release at least eight of the present squad and replace with players who want to play for the club!!

Stratton Red wrote:
I don't think anyone is stupid enough to think we can sign Kaka or Ronaldo. I agree we need a well run club, a well run club is one which meets its financial obligations as well as its obligations to its fans. Would I rather be in Poxfords position watching dire non-league football but have a club? Not sure...

But were talking about having a professional club to support not a 2 bit team like the Pox, there`s a big difference between what we have and what they have as we all know.

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

Hmmmm.... nah not really. Lost my job at Ford a couple of weeks back, so pretty miserable. Just hope Swindon start winning soon to cheer me up, otherwise I'll be havin to call the Samaritans!

Called them myself they told me there`s a big queue of Swindon fans already waiting,sorry to hear about the job mate it seems to be happening everywhere and the motor industry has been hit hard,oh well the jolly posters on here should keep in occupied for now, good luck looking for employment anyway.

Sorry to hear about your job come and join the Army loads of places available and we get to build sand castles every 2 years now thats commitment from a boss.

Personally i think the board should stop talking drivel. Wage cap my eye just a pathetic excuse as to why we still have not signed anyone.
Rumours on 606 is that were close to signing Phillips from Rovers (i do hope not) if that is the boards view then theyll have no reason to worry about a wage cap the bloke couldnt save a pound a week! C'mon board pull your finger out.
Hey security word sign stop just when were close to new faces!

tabs263 wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

Hmmmm.... nah not really. Lost my job at Ford a couple of weeks back, so pretty miserable. Just hope Swindon start winning soon to cheer me up, otherwise I'll be havin to call the Samaritans!

Called them myself they told me there`s a big queue of Swindon fans already waiting,sorry to hear about the job mate it seems to be happening everywhere and the motor industry has been hit hard,oh well the jolly posters on here should keep in occupied for now, good luck looking for employment anyway.

Sorry to hear about your job come and join the Army loads of places available and we get to build sand castles every 2 years now thats commitment from a boss.

And get your bottom touched by other gay army boys

dirty stan wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

stop posting on the adver forum, stop reading the adver posts and go over to the herald if its that much better. quite simple.

Oh stan a bit touchy arent we? Theyre only commenting that a paper from out of the town bounderies has more interesting stories.
Do you want this forum all for yourself? At least then youd like all the posts you read or id like to think you would. Calm down me old fruit bat and join in the fun of wondering why the board bothered saving us if they are not interested in spending for the benefit of the club. BOOOOOOOOO

Frog Chorus wrote:

tabs263 wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

steve,brentford wrote:

Tite_Fitt wrote:

Mighty Reds wrote: I have just read on sport page of Gazette & Herald,Danny Wilson says he will have to put any move for Michael Nelson on hold until the summer – but expects to sign at least two players before Tuesday’s clash with Walsall. Come on adver keep us informed here in Swindon, if you forgot club is called Swindon Town football club.

Much better article in the Gazette & Herald, compared to the cr*p this Adver idiot keeps churning out! Hopefully DW will be signing a experienced centre half and a midfielder and hopefully a striker?.... c'mon Danny you can do it!

Well,well tite_ you nearly sounded positive in that post are you happy today?

Hmmmm.... nah not really. Lost my job at Ford a couple of weeks back, so pretty miserable. Just hope Swindon start winning soon to cheer me up, otherwise I'll be havin to call the Samaritans!

Called them myself they told me there`s a big queue of Swindon fans already waiting,sorry to hear about the job mate it seems to be happening everywhere and the motor industry has been hit hard,oh well the jolly posters on here should keep in occupied for now, good luck looking for employment anyway.

Sorry to hear about your job come and join the Army loads of places available and we get to build sand castles every 2 years now thats commitment from a boss.

And get your bottom touched by other gay army boys

Mate you mustnt knock it till youve tried it,or perhaps you have and enjoyed it too much!

jam1 wrote:
I think Hasney Aljofree deserves to be club captain and the highest earning player....

And you my good Swindon buddy i think youre on crack!
I used to quite like old Has but now im not convinced he no longer fires my rockets

Since 1950 wrote:
To get to the original theme of this article, wages, I don't think half of them are worth the money they're being paid at the moment anyway. If they were paid on effort most of them would have a big wage cut.

I think you will find that if they were paid on effort or piece money i think its called they would be paying the club pump all round

pcowley wrote:
I think bringing wage caps into League 1 and the Championship and the Premiership is a great idea. That will stop all these over paid players thinking they are worth millions and millions of pounds. Also thinking they should be on 100k per week. Just think if alot of these foreign consorteums pulled out of these top clubs no other investor could actually afford to take on these stupid salaries that they have agreed to pay the players. I hope it happens to be fair because the game is getting stupid! Also a wage cap gives the opportunity for other clubs like Swindon to complete when signing new players.ie if all these players in league 1 and 2 were on the same salary then its just comes down to choice over club. Or you could be aloud to spend over a certain amount over your allocated budget on 1 good player per club. Theres also loads of ifs and buts when signing players. Alot of people on this sight just think , oh yeah lets buy Kaka and Ronaldo they would be good signings. Firstly these players wouldnt even join Swindon if they were the last club on earth and secondly we couldnt afford their wages anyway. Even if we are after players from the lower divisions, this doesnt mean they would definately sign for Swindon just because weve put in an offer. Swindon have probably approached alot of players but at the end of the day, if the player doesnt want to join your club, what can you do about it. Thats definately got nothing to do with the board or manager, thats the players/agents choice! Alot of people have to get into the real world which is not many clubs of Swindons size in league 1 or 2 spend big money on new players nowadays. Even look at Southampton who are on the brink of admistration because of the huge wage bill they previously took on in order to attempt to get Premiership football. Another club Watford are also suffering. Both of these clubs now have to play alot of youth team players in the side just to survive! That football. You either spend a fortune on players and if it works for a few seasons your laughing or you spend a fortune of players and you get relegated and are still paying out big money on wages or you just keep a tight budget and at the end of the day , just be thankful you have got a football club to support in this day and age!

An ex colleague of mine now has dealings in football circles and has stated to me that players are only paid about £5k a week (only!!!!) All the res of their wages is put into accounts abroad for tax evasion purposes. They only declare little amounts so as the rest is tax exempt.
How fitting that my security word is rich-take. Some of these greedy players should be pi55 take!!!

tabs263 wrote:
Personally i think the board should stop talking drivel. Wage cap my eye just a pathetic excuse as to why we still have not signed anyone.
Rumours on 606 is that were close to signing Phillips from Rovers (i do hope not) if that is the boards view then theyll have no reason to worry about a wage cap the bloke couldnt save a pound a week! C'mon board pull your finger out.
Hey security word sign stop just when were close to new faces!

I actually think he is a decent keeper. Better than Smith anyway. Could be number 2 to Brez

tommyg wrote:

tabs263 wrote: Personally i think the board should stop talking drivel. Wage cap my eye just a pathetic excuse as to why we still have not signed anyone. Rumours on 606 is that were close to signing Phillips from Rovers (i do hope not) if that is the boards view then theyll have no reason to worry about a wage cap the bloke couldnt save a pound a week! C'mon board pull your finger out. Hey security word sign stop just when were close to new faces!

I actually think he is a decent keeper. Better than Smith anyway. Could be number 2 to Brez

Cant disagree with you that he is better than Smith but who in there right mind would sign that clown? He isnt going anywhere untill his contract runs out so i think Brez will be off to pastures new, perhaps to a club with a board with ambition.

A slow weak for news eh? Good job i've got you for amusement 263. ;) can't see us going in for another keeper unless Brez is legging it, god forbid. I'd like to think we are prioritising reinforcements for other area's before that. Plus i remember seeing the young keeper warming up when brez was injured once. He looked really useful!

I meant slow week, not slow weak. Sorry pedantic, happens when you work in comms.

I meant slow week, not slow weak. Sorry pedantic, happens when you work in comms.

Robinette84 wrote:
I meant slow week, not slow weak. Sorry pedantic, happens when you work in comms.

How many times do you have to repeat yourself robinette, is that because you work in comms is that because you work in comms is that because you work in comms is that because you work in comms is that because you work in comms is that because you work in comms Oh i am such a card!

Thats right, when you've got Nowt else to say, say the same thing over again. Usually works for the adver 2

Question? Is the Leo Sayer who posts regularly the singer Leo Sayer who is now living in Australia?

grovesie wrote:
Question? Is the Leo Sayer who posts regularly the singer Leo Sayer who is now living in Australia?

tch........