SWINDON TOWN: McCrory reacts to report Di Canio set to sue club

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SWINDON Town chairman Jed McCrory has said he would be “disappointed” if a report former manager Paolo Di Canio is considering suing the club for breach of contract is true.

A story on The Sun's website tonight claims Di Canio is taking legal action against Town over the sale of Matt Ritchie to Bournemouth.

McCrory was not running the club at the time of the incident – Ritchie was sold on January 30 – and speaking exclusively to the Advertiser he stressed that he hoped no such circumstances would be forthcoming.

“These are incidents that were not in my control at the time. I would be disappointed if he did sue the club, for a man as passionate about football as Paolo,” he said.

“I would be disappointed if that is the truth. Knowing the paper stories that have come out previously I would be disappointed if that is true.

“I don’t know if it is true, I haven’t seen anything yet. As a football fan I’ll be disappointed if it’s true and I just want to work with people who want to take Swindon Town forwards and focus the club going forward.”

Di Canio, who announced his resignation from Town last week via a statement released to the Adver, has previously gone on record to state that Ritchie was sold to Swindon’s League One promotion rivals without his consent.

In a previous press release, issued on February 1, the Italian stressed that the winger had been offloaded behind his back.

He said: “When Phil (Spencer, Di Canio’s agent) met with (the incoming board) he was assured that Matt Ritchie would not be sold despite there being an offer from Bournemouth to acquire him. He was told “there is no way that we would sell one of our best players to one of our main competitors”.

“Consequently, we were assured that Matt Ritchie was going nowhere and money would be made available for the squad to be strengthened. Within an hour I received a phone call from Matt Ritchie telling me that the club had agreed to sell him and he was in the process of agreeing personal terms.

“I regard this as a clear breach of my contract with the Club and moreover, a clear attempt to undermine my position notwithstanding the success we have achieved in the last 18 months. Matt Ritchie was sold behind my back.”

The club’s former majority shareholder, Andrew Black, has since accepted that he sanctioned the transfer in the best interests of the club.

In a Twitter post on February 3, he wrote: “I did sanction the sale of Ritchie. I blocked it the first time it came up but agreed to it later believing it had to happen.”

Chief executive Nick Watkins had previously mentioned that the money generated by the sale of Ritchie, believed to be around £400,000 after the deduction of agent fees and the sell-on fee due to Portsmouth, was necessary to see Swindon through a state of flux between owners.

He said: “(If Ritchie had not been sold) then I think the dogs of administration would be straining at the leash right now.

“The club would always try to play it down because we always believed our salvation was in our own hands and we could avoid the financial cliff that we were faced with.”

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12:42am Fri 1 Mar 13

madterrier says...

Well a few of us have flagged this many times - that Di Canio has been building for a constructive dismissal case. All of his statements were riddled with legalese and clearly drafted by someone other than him.

Hard to believe that any club would put a clause in a manager's contract that players could only be sold with their consent, after the Curbishley £2 million case. But you never know.

I just hope that the new owners sought some sort of indemnity from Black for this eventuality, but I doubt it.
Well a few of us have flagged this many times - that Di Canio has been building for a constructive dismissal case. All of his statements were riddled with legalese and clearly drafted by someone other than him. Hard to believe that any club would put a clause in a manager's contract that players could only be sold with their consent, after the Curbishley £2 million case. But you never know. I just hope that the new owners sought some sort of indemnity from Black for this eventuality, but I doubt it. madterrier

12:56am Fri 1 Mar 13

super reds says...

Will he get anything from it because how I understand it from recent articles is that he renegotiated a new temporary contract, signed by legal people, that he would stay until 18th of February 5pm unless the takeover was completed before then, so that tells me he was out of contract anyway on the 18th, surely any previous contract is null & void...
Will he get anything from it because how I understand it from recent articles is that he renegotiated a new temporary contract, signed by legal people, that he would stay until 18th of February 5pm unless the takeover was completed before then, so that tells me he was out of contract anyway on the 18th, surely any previous contract is null & void... super reds

1:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

super reds says...

super reds wrote:
Will he get anything from it because how I understand it from recent articles is that he renegotiated a new temporary contract, signed by legal people, that he would stay until 18th of February 5pm unless the takeover was completed before then, so that tells me he was out of contract anyway on the 18th, surely any previous contract is null & void...
Or have I completely misunderstood!!!!
[quote][p][bold]super reds[/bold] wrote: Will he get anything from it because how I understand it from recent articles is that he renegotiated a new temporary contract, signed by legal people, that he would stay until 18th of February 5pm unless the takeover was completed before then, so that tells me he was out of contract anyway on the 18th, surely any previous contract is null & void...[/p][/quote]Or have I completely misunderstood!!!! super reds

1:40am Fri 1 Mar 13

joey butler says...

Usual issues with PDC, just Me, Me, Me, Me, Me!!!!

He is also hacked off because he has been replaced so quickly.
Usual issues with PDC, just Me, Me, Me, Me, Me!!!! He is also hacked off because he has been replaced so quickly. joey butler

2:25am Fri 1 Mar 13

stfcpaul says...

Not a chance!
Di Canio might be many things, but he knows how much the fans loved him and he wouldn't do that to us, never!
Hopefully lol
Not a chance! Di Canio might be many things, but he knows how much the fans loved him and he wouldn't do that to us, never! Hopefully lol stfcpaul

5:17am Fri 1 Mar 13

CraigClark says...

Bore off paolo, thanks for the memories but that's all they are now! COYR!
Bore off paolo, thanks for the memories but that's all they are now! COYR! CraigClark

5:53am Fri 1 Mar 13

Chish and Fips says...

If this is true, it might be perceived as a bitter and twisted attempt to undermine the new managers first day with these headlines.

Whether this is PDC's, or his advisors intention I don't know, but have my suspicions it's the latter, probably on some form of percentage of compo .
If this is true, it might be perceived as a bitter and twisted attempt to undermine the new managers first day with these headlines. Whether this is PDC's, or his advisors intention I don't know, but have my suspicions it's the latter, probably on some form of percentage of compo [if any is awarded]. Chish and Fips

6:09am Fri 1 Mar 13

NewburyRobin says...

Lets hope this is all paper talk our club have been through enough already these last few weeks/months. However I would not be totally surprised if PDC went down that road. I was cautious of him & his latin temperament when he was first appointed but warmed to him as time went on. If he does drag us through the courts as far as I am concerned the man will have gone from hero to zero.

He came to Swindon to raise his profile & we all knew that he would not be here for the duration, don't use the Matt Richie sale to try & line your own pockets Paolo.

You demanded loyalty & you got that in shed loads from the fans & the players that stayed. You dropped us all in our hour of need so please show us some respect & do what I heard on the Sky interview, which went along the lines of - my Swindon chapter is closed.
Lets hope this is all paper talk our club have been through enough already these last few weeks/months. However I would not be totally surprised if PDC went down that road. I was cautious of him & his latin temperament when he was first appointed but warmed to him as time went on. If he does drag us through the courts as far as I am concerned the man will have gone from hero to zero. He came to Swindon to raise his profile & we all knew that he would not be here for the duration, don't use the Matt Richie sale to try & line your own pockets Paolo. You demanded loyalty & you got that in shed loads from the fans & the players that stayed. You dropped us all in our hour of need so please show us some respect & do what I heard on the Sky interview, which went along the lines of - my Swindon chapter is closed. NewburyRobin

6:20am Fri 1 Mar 13

grove red says...

If this is true who would want him as a manager now he walked out ie resigned so cant see him getting a penny.A black said it was sell richie or poss lose our club so he had no choise for some reason or another i think he will try and sue A black and not swindon town fc.
If this is true who would want him as a manager now he walked out ie resigned so cant see him getting a penny.A black said it was sell richie or poss lose our club so he had no choise for some reason or another i think he will try and sue A black and not swindon town fc. grove red

6:24am Fri 1 Mar 13

Jets there'd says...

Of course the Sun article could be pure paper talk. I wouldn't buy the Sun for facts!!!

If there is truth in it then Paolo Di Canio probably won't get another job in British football. Lets hope it is untrue.

He appears very bitter.

Let's all draw a line under this "chapter" & get behind the new manager & the team.
Of course the Sun article could be pure paper talk. I wouldn't buy the Sun for facts!!! If there is truth in it then Paolo Di Canio probably won't get another job in British football. Lets hope it is untrue. He appears very bitter. Let's all draw a line under this "chapter" & get behind the new manager & the team. Jets there'd

6:26am Fri 1 Mar 13

London Red says...

This case is totally different to Curbishley - surely any court will see it was needed to stop administration not just make money
.
Surely saving a club and therefore lots of jobs is more important than "gaining the managers position"
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Will lose all respect for PdC if he sues us and even more for the courts if they ruled in his favour
This case is totally different to Curbishley - surely any court will see it was needed to stop administration not just make money . Surely saving a club and therefore lots of jobs is more important than "gaining the managers position" . Will lose all respect for PdC if he sues us and even more for the courts if they ruled in his favour London Red

6:32am Fri 1 Mar 13

ya mums got facial hair says...

Keep up the good work di canio
Legend.
He told everyone his intension before the Crawley game, is this really news?
No surprise
Keep up the good work di canio Legend. He told everyone his intension before the Crawley game, is this really news? No surprise ya mums got facial hair

6:38am Fri 1 Mar 13

louiscassius says...

Keep down the bad work di canio

Nightmare.

He told no-one his intension before the Preston game, it is news to me

Big surprise
Keep down the bad work di canio Nightmare. He told no-one his intension before the Preston game, it is news to me Big surprise louiscassius

6:42am Fri 1 Mar 13

ya mums got facial hair says...

London Red wrote:
This case is totally different to Curbishley - surely any court will see it was needed to stop administration not just make money
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Surely saving a club and therefore lots of jobs is more important than "gaining the managers position"
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Will lose all respect for PdC if he sues us and even more for the courts if they ruled in his favour
PDc won't care what you/I or anyone else thinks.
Can't see him winning a case as he walked and didn't get sacked.
[quote][p][bold]London Red[/bold] wrote: This case is totally different to Curbishley - surely any court will see it was needed to stop administration not just make money . Surely saving a club and therefore lots of jobs is more important than "gaining the managers position" . Will lose all respect for PdC if he sues us and even more for the courts if they ruled in his favour[/p][/quote]PDc won't care what you/I or anyone else thinks. Can't see him winning a case as he walked and didn't get sacked. ya mums got facial hair

6:45am Fri 1 Mar 13

ciclosporindorset says...

A rational man would understand that if the alternative to selling Ritchie was administration they would support their employer, try to help the club through the crisis and not walk out on players, fans and colleagues. Then to threaten if true, to sue those very people who were simply on the receiving end of the same act, is the conduct of a victim. That is the ego that is pdc. If true. I hope its not!
A rational man would understand that if the alternative to selling Ritchie was administration they would support their employer, try to help the club through the crisis and not walk out on players, fans and colleagues. Then to threaten if true, to sue those very people who were simply on the receiving end of the same act, is the conduct of a victim. That is the ego that is pdc. If true. I hope its not! ciclosporindorset

6:47am Fri 1 Mar 13

stfclondon says...

stfcpaul wrote:
Not a chance!
Di Canio might be many things, but he knows how much the fans loved him and he wouldn't do that to us, never!
Hopefully lol
Well he sued Lazio, the club he has supported all his life and whose fans idolise him...
[quote][p][bold]stfcpaul[/bold] wrote: Not a chance! Di Canio might be many things, but he knows how much the fans loved him and he wouldn't do that to us, never! Hopefully lol[/p][/quote]Well he sued Lazio, the club he has supported all his life and whose fans idolise him... stfclondon

6:57am Fri 1 Mar 13

jayden says...

Then we could sue the backroom staff as they were working for st not pdc.
Then we could sue the backroom staff as they were working for st not pdc. jayden

7:09am Fri 1 Mar 13

ciclosporindorset says...

Good insight Jayden, if PDC encouraged others to break their contracts maybe he would also be in breach of club policy ie contract!
Good insight Jayden, if PDC encouraged others to break their contracts maybe he would also be in breach of club policy ie contract! ciclosporindorset

7:15am Fri 1 Mar 13

Redhouse Red says...

If true...
If true... Redhouse Red

7:23am Fri 1 Mar 13

35 year fan says...

the argument is he was forced out. technical expression is constructive dismissal. he will be after comp for the rest of his contract.

those associated with the club who made statements or leaked things to the press which made him look so bad are to blame for provoking him into this IMO. if they had let him leave with his head held high this wouldnt be happening.
the argument is he was forced out. technical expression is constructive dismissal. he will be after comp for the rest of his contract. those associated with the club who made statements or leaked things to the press which made him look so bad are to blame for provoking him into this IMO. if they had let him leave with his head held high this wouldnt be happening. 35 year fan

7:29am Fri 1 Mar 13

batch says...

Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership.

His watch, his mess up.

If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans.

What a mess.
Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership. His watch, his mess up. If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans. What a mess. batch

7:30am Fri 1 Mar 13

Brainy_G93 says...

He doesn't care about Swindon. Does he think any of the thousands of TRUE town fans were happy about the Ritchie sale. Unfortunately when you are a third division club heavily in debt these things can happen.
He doesn't care about Swindon. Does he think any of the thousands of TRUE town fans were happy about the Ritchie sale. Unfortunately when you are a third division club heavily in debt these things can happen. Brainy_G93

7:30am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oldhamred says...

“That is not fair for the fans and so my chapter at Swindon is finished in terms of being manager of Swindon Football Club.

Why is the above quote from Paolos interview is Sky sports news making me feel uneasy?

Why did he say his chapter was finished then add "In terms of being manager"?

If he does follow this path then surely this will be the final nail in the coffin for his managerial career.

I assume that if he brought a case to court and won, we would have to pay up his contract. It wouldn't destroy the club but it could set us back a season.

I wonder what, if any A Blacks liabilities are?
Afterall, the broken promise was whilst he was owner.

I just knew that 1 whole day of good news had a price.
“That is not fair for the fans and so my chapter at Swindon is finished in terms of being manager of Swindon Football Club. Why is the above quote from Paolos interview is Sky sports news making me feel uneasy? Why did he say his chapter was finished then add "In terms of being manager"? If he does follow this path then surely this will be the final nail in the coffin for his managerial career. I assume that if he brought a case to court and won, we would have to pay up his contract. It wouldn't destroy the club but it could set us back a season. I wonder what, if any A Blacks liabilities are? Afterall, the broken promise was whilst he was owner. I just knew that 1 whole day of good news had a price. Oldhamred

7:35am Fri 1 Mar 13

HOOKEY says...

What club is going to want him just carry on digging a hole for yourself
What club is going to want him just carry on digging a hole for yourself HOOKEY

7:36am Fri 1 Mar 13

NewburyRobin says...

35 year fan wrote:
the argument is he was forced out. technical expression is constructive dismissal. he will be after comp for the rest of his contract.

those associated with the club who made statements or leaked things to the press which made him look so bad are to blame for provoking him into this IMO. if they had let him leave with his head held high this wouldnt be happening.
He should have stayed until the end of the season & then he would definitely been able to leave with his head held high. Things happen in life get on with it, call me old fashioned but I hate all this sueing culture.
[quote][p][bold]35 year fan[/bold] wrote: the argument is he was forced out. technical expression is constructive dismissal. he will be after comp for the rest of his contract. those associated with the club who made statements or leaked things to the press which made him look so bad are to blame for provoking him into this IMO. if they had let him leave with his head held high this wouldnt be happening.[/p][/quote]He should have stayed until the end of the season & then he would definitely been able to leave with his head held high. Things happen in life get on with it, call me old fashioned but I hate all this sueing culture. NewburyRobin

7:37am Fri 1 Mar 13

old town robin says...

what a dispicable little tow rag, the man walked out on us when we were top of the league, encouraged his coaches to do the same, leaving us high and dry. Show me one other manager that has ever stooped to that level, can't think of anyone off hand.

If he does trys sueing, he could be on shakey ground, because he was aware Ritchie would be sold if an alternative means of funding was not found and Black sending a fax to every club in the league the day before stating the whole team was for sale would have been a good time for him to raise his objections.

Where do we stand should anothe club be stupid enough to offer this little toady a managers position within the next 18 months, surely we would be able to sue him or demand compo from his new club. I think he knows this and is just creating a counter claim.

When he tried to sue Lazio, i believe he lost his case, so bring it on and lets see how strong his case is.
what a dispicable little tow rag, the man walked out on us when we were top of the league, encouraged his coaches to do the same, leaving us high and dry. Show me one other manager that has ever stooped to that level, can't think of anyone off hand. If he does trys sueing, he could be on shakey ground, because he was aware Ritchie would be sold if an alternative means of funding was not found and Black sending a fax to every club in the league the day before stating the whole team was for sale would have been a good time for him to raise his objections. Where do we stand should anothe club be stupid enough to offer this little toady a managers position within the next 18 months, surely we would be able to sue him or demand compo from his new club. I think he knows this and is just creating a counter claim. When he tried to sue Lazio, i believe he lost his case, so bring it on and lets see how strong his case is. old town robin

7:41am Fri 1 Mar 13

Since 1950 says...

I and others on here warned that if reports were true then PDC had a good case for 'constructive'.

Personally, I hope he doesn't go through with it. He has become bitter over the whole thing it would appear.

I can understand how he feels, but he is in danger of shooting himself in both feet if he does go ahead with court action.

Anyway, who would he sue? Black, or the Club? Look how quickly McCrory has come out to say 'nothing to do with me'. Another reason why it will always be my belief that the new board wanted him out before they took over.
I and others on here warned that if reports were true then PDC had a good case for 'constructive'. Personally, I hope he doesn't go through with it. He has become bitter over the whole thing it would appear. I can understand how he feels, but he is in danger of shooting himself in both feet if he does go ahead with court action. Anyway, who would he sue? Black, or the Club? Look how quickly McCrory has come out to say 'nothing to do with me'. Another reason why it will always be my belief that the new board wanted him out before they took over. Since 1950

7:42am Fri 1 Mar 13

Rebel_phish says...

So, one minute your offering to help keep the club afloat by saying you're willing to put in your own money for loan players wages as the club was in a financial flux, for the good of the club.

Now you want to sue the ar5e off that same club 'cos you didn't like the way the short-term financial problem was resolved, for the good of the club.

Any successfull claim/award could/would seriously undermine the clubs finances, and have a detrimental effect on the clubs mere survival.

I didn't think that money was the motivator for Paolo. I see that I was wrong.
Hero to zero is also the term I would use.
So, one minute your offering to help keep the club afloat by saying you're willing to put in your own money for loan players wages as the club was in a financial flux, for the good of the club. Now you want to sue the ar5e off that same club 'cos you didn't like the way the short-term financial problem was resolved, for the good of the club. Any successfull claim/award could/would seriously undermine the clubs finances, and have a detrimental effect on the clubs mere survival. I didn't think that money was the motivator for Paolo. I see that I was wrong. Hero to zero is also the term I would use. Rebel_phish

7:42am Fri 1 Mar 13

Nikki Nythe says...

We could counter sue him for breach of contract as long as black was telling the truth which concerns me and if jed and black did this to push him out we deserved to be sued if not jed would need to sue black as it was his watch not his. Everytine we have a take over we have a law suit so much for fitton and black bringing the club stability. Mmm
We could counter sue him for breach of contract as long as black was telling the truth which concerns me and if jed and black did this to push him out we deserved to be sued if not jed would need to sue black as it was his watch not his. Everytine we have a take over we have a law suit so much for fitton and black bringing the club stability. Mmm Nikki Nythe

7:48am Fri 1 Mar 13

LydiardRED67 says...

If this statement is true then it may well never come to court as such.

It depends what the clause in his contract states, does it say he is to be advised prior to any sales, or sanction the sale. I cant believe it is the latter and if the former then the club will say they advised him and it is one word against aanother.

Also, PDC states he met with the new board who stated they would not sell Ritchie. Which is a true statement. They would not have as they never had the choice as they were not in control when he was sold.

This will just cost us legal fees in my opinion.

Like others have said, we now know why the carefully worded statements appeared.

Strong sense of honour, my ar&e....
If this statement is true then it may well never come to court as such. It depends what the clause in his contract states, does it say he is to be advised prior to any sales, or sanction the sale. I cant believe it is the latter and if the former then the club will say they advised him and it is one word against aanother. Also, PDC states he met with the new board who stated they would not sell Ritchie. Which is a true statement. They would not have as they never had the choice as they were not in control when he was sold. This will just cost us legal fees in my opinion. Like others have said, we now know why the carefully worded statements appeared. Strong sense of honour, my ar&e.... LydiardRED67

7:48am Fri 1 Mar 13

Nikki Nythe says...

Call the police jed breaking and entering
Call the police jed breaking and entering Nikki Nythe

7:51am Fri 1 Mar 13

Highworth red says...

The sale of Ritchie has nothing to do with Dicanio, he is an employe, the same as the players, the burger stall sellers, the tea lady. Shove off Dicanio you're pathetic.
The sale of Ritchie has nothing to do with Dicanio, he is an employe, the same as the players, the burger stall sellers, the tea lady. Shove off Dicanio you're pathetic. Highworth red

7:54am Fri 1 Mar 13

clunge_meister says...

Reading the sun article it looks like a throw away line rounding up a very short piece about the hiring of big Mac.

It looks like a guess based on the breach of contract statement rather than any new info.
Reading the sun article it looks like a throw away line rounding up a very short piece about the hiring of big Mac. It looks like a guess based on the breach of contract statement rather than any new info. clunge_meister

7:56am Fri 1 Mar 13

Last step says...

35 year fan wrote:
the argument is he was forced out. technical expression is constructive dismissal. he will be after comp for the rest of his contract.

those associated with the club who made statements or leaked things to the press which made him look so bad are to blame for provoking him into this IMO. if they had let him leave with his head held high this wouldnt be happening.
Correct.
[quote][p][bold]35 year fan[/bold] wrote: the argument is he was forced out. technical expression is constructive dismissal. he will be after comp for the rest of his contract. those associated with the club who made statements or leaked things to the press which made him look so bad are to blame for provoking him into this IMO. if they had let him leave with his head held high this wouldnt be happening.[/p][/quote]Correct. Last step

7:59am Fri 1 Mar 13

Last step says...

batch wrote:
Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership.

His watch, his mess up.

If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans.

What a mess.
Would be disappointed if 'Swindon Town' was the subject of any legal action. Di Canio should be going after Black, Patey et all, the board and desicion makers at the time.

People have been saying all along that it looks like a case of constructive dismissal. Would have cost them too much to sack him.

The car crash continues.
[quote][p][bold]batch[/bold] wrote: Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership. His watch, his mess up. If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans. What a mess.[/p][/quote]Would be disappointed if 'Swindon Town' was the subject of any legal action. Di Canio should be going after Black, Patey et all, the board and desicion makers at the time. People have been saying all along that it looks like a case of constructive dismissal. Would have cost them too much to sack him. The car crash continues. Last step

8:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

Pottered says...

The "puppet Master" keeps pulling his strings, wise up Paolo or loose all credibility and respect.
The "puppet Master" keeps pulling his strings, wise up Paolo or loose all credibility and respect. Pottered

8:10am Fri 1 Mar 13

mancrobin says...

And people compare this man to Macari, Ardilles and Hoddle?

No chance, try Ruddock.
And people compare this man to Macari, Ardilles and Hoddle? No chance, try Ruddock. mancrobin

8:14am Fri 1 Mar 13

themoonraker says...

It appears that PDC would have preferred us to keep Matt and go into administration, I feel that speaks volumes about the man and his mindset......and some of us wanted him back!
It appears that PDC would have preferred us to keep Matt and go into administration, I feel that speaks volumes about the man and his mindset......and some of us wanted him back! themoonraker

8:14am Fri 1 Mar 13

peatmoor pirate says...

If (and bear in mind the paper which this story is in is not reknowened for its accuracy) Paolo sues STFC then make no mistake, he is suing us, the fans. We will have to pay one way or another, either through monies taken in ticket sales or reduced or having to sell more players so having a worse team. His case for constructive dismissal is weak at best and he will be unemployable in this country if he does this.
Personally beginning to wish we'd never employed him; more trouble than he was worth.
If (and bear in mind the paper which this story is in is not reknowened for its accuracy) Paolo sues STFC then make no mistake, he is suing us, the fans. We will have to pay one way or another, either through monies taken in ticket sales or reduced or having to sell more players so having a worse team. His case for constructive dismissal is weak at best and he will be unemployable in this country if he does this. Personally beginning to wish we'd never employed him; more trouble than he was worth. peatmoor pirate

8:15am Fri 1 Mar 13

davel4848 says...

Just go away Paolo. You are starting to leave a very sour taste in everyone's mouth.
If you were to go through with this you will be despised by the very fans that followed you and gave you almost godlike status.
Let's hope it's just paper talk and nothing else but if it happens you will not be able to go anywhere with your head held high.
Haven't you and your agent made enough money from our club ?
Just go away quietly please before you make yourself look even more stupid than you have done already. No-one here has any interest in you anymore. You're history.
Just go away Paolo. You are starting to leave a very sour taste in everyone's mouth. If you were to go through with this you will be despised by the very fans that followed you and gave you almost godlike status. Let's hope it's just paper talk and nothing else but if it happens you will not be able to go anywhere with your head held high. Haven't you and your agent made enough money from our club ? Just go away quietly please before you make yourself look even more stupid than you have done already. No-one here has any interest in you anymore. You're history. davel4848

8:21am Fri 1 Mar 13

themoonraker says...

mancrobin wrote:
And people compare this man to Macari, Ardilles and Hoddle?

No chance, try Ruddock.
''the man is a legend, build a statue of him''......personall
y I think a set of gallows would be more fitting.The last month seems to point out that all PDC was ever interested in was PDC.
He succeeded in fooling most of us for a while, but now he can never be remembered as more than an ex-manager who loved himself more than the club.
[quote][p][bold]mancrobin[/bold] wrote: And people compare this man to Macari, Ardilles and Hoddle? No chance, try Ruddock.[/p][/quote]''the man is a legend, build a statue of him''......personall y I think a set of gallows would be more fitting.The last month seems to point out that all PDC was ever interested in was PDC. He succeeded in fooling most of us for a while, but now he can never be remembered as more than an ex-manager who loved himself more than the club. themoonraker

8:23am Fri 1 Mar 13

billbst says...

I do not by nature believe anything the Sun prints. However it is very true that his recent statements have been ghost written. I do not remember Paolo using the word "notwithstanding" very often.
I do not by nature believe anything the Sun prints. However it is very true that his recent statements have been ghost written. I do not remember Paolo using the word "notwithstanding" very often. billbst

8:28am Fri 1 Mar 13

Med Red says...

I think we should wait to hear from Paolo before passing judgement. There's always two sides to a story.

I'm looking forward to today's press conference introducing the new manager and his team. Lets hope he can emulate the success Paolo had.
I think we should wait to hear from Paolo before passing judgement. There's always two sides to a story. I'm looking forward to today's press conference introducing the new manager and his team. Lets hope he can emulate the success Paolo had. Med Red

8:31am Fri 1 Mar 13

bradley red 1 says...

Was always going to end up in court!
Was always going to end up in court! bradley red 1

8:34am Fri 1 Mar 13

ShearerShearer says...

billbst wrote:
I do not by nature believe anything the Sun prints. However it is very true that his recent statements have been ghost written. I do not remember Paolo using the word "notwithstandin
g" very often.
Words like "untenable" and "notwithstanding" are the poison of agent leeches who are the parasites of football.
[quote][p][bold]billbst[/bold] wrote: I do not by nature believe anything the Sun prints. However it is very true that his recent statements have been ghost written. I do not remember Paolo using the word "notwithstandin g" very often.[/p][/quote]Words like "untenable" and "notwithstanding" are the poison of agent leeches who are the parasites of football. ShearerShearer

8:39am Fri 1 Mar 13

burley01rs says...

True colours?
True colours? burley01rs

8:39am Fri 1 Mar 13

old town robin says...

There were a few on here thinking Curbishley would have been a good shout for the new manager. He made his 2 million out of West Ham and never worked as a manager again and probably never will, because he is tainted and no club with any sense will ever employ him. If Paolo Di Canio goes down the same route, I can't think of anyone would want him either.
There were a few on here thinking Curbishley would have been a good shout for the new manager. He made his 2 million out of West Ham and never worked as a manager again and probably never will, because he is tainted and no club with any sense will ever employ him. If Paolo Di Canio goes down the same route, I can't think of anyone would want him either. old town robin

8:40am Fri 1 Mar 13

stfcknowitall says...

themoonraker wrote:
It appears that PDC would have preferred us to keep Matt and go into administration, I feel that speaks volumes about the man and his mindset......and some of us wanted him back!
Exactly!! I was fully behind Paolo until he left in the way he did.

A few days prior to his sudden departure he had accused Andrew Black of 'running away'! Well Paolo then went and done the exactly the same thing as Black!

Paolo was only interested in his own personal achievements and win rate not about the finacial state of the club. He knew he could walk if things didn't go his way and funds we're tight and thats exactly what he done.

Now Bu**er off Paolo before you lose anymore credibility (if you have any left!)...... a new 'chapter' has started here at town and your not part of it!!
[quote][p][bold]themoonraker[/bold] wrote: It appears that PDC would have preferred us to keep Matt and go into administration, I feel that speaks volumes about the man and his mindset......and some of us wanted him back![/p][/quote]Exactly!! I was fully behind Paolo until he left in the way he did. A few days prior to his sudden departure he had accused Andrew Black of 'running away'! Well Paolo then went and done the exactly the same thing as Black! Paolo was only interested in his own personal achievements and win rate not about the finacial state of the club. He knew he could walk if things didn't go his way and funds we're tight and thats exactly what he done. Now Bu**er off Paolo before you lose anymore credibility (if you have any left!)...... a new 'chapter' has started here at town and your not part of it!! stfcknowitall

8:43am Fri 1 Mar 13

RogerJ1969 says...

Has PDC's resignation been accepted and by whom?
If not in everyday terms he has failed to turn up for work for the last couple of weeks therefore breaching his contract of employment (provided there is not a clause that 'he does what he wants'.
If the rag that is the Sun is correct then I would suspect he has no chance of winning any case but has again taken the opportunity to gain publicity over the appointment of his replacement. As AB said 'an accident waiting to happen'.
I make these comments as a big supporter of PDC and beleive it a shame he could not ride out the changes in ownership with a more mature attitude. He obviously does not understand cashflow demands as far as the Richie sale goes.
Has PDC's resignation been accepted and by whom? If not in everyday terms he has failed to turn up for work for the last couple of weeks therefore breaching his contract of employment (provided there is not a clause that 'he does what he wants'. If the rag that is the Sun is correct then I would suspect he has no chance of winning any case but has again taken the opportunity to gain publicity over the appointment of his replacement. As AB said 'an accident waiting to happen'. I make these comments as a big supporter of PDC and beleive it a shame he could not ride out the changes in ownership with a more mature attitude. He obviously does not understand cashflow demands as far as the Richie sale goes. RogerJ1969

8:44am Fri 1 Mar 13

umpcah says...

themoonraker wrote:
It appears that PDC would have preferred us to keep Matt and go into administration, I feel that speaks volumes about the man and his mindset......and some of us wanted him back!
I`m glad that Di Canio has gone but I cant agree on that. I think it was disgusting that the news of Matt`s transfer came from the player himself. I also think that Di Canio always believed that ample funds were just around the corner.
[quote][p][bold]themoonraker[/bold] wrote: It appears that PDC would have preferred us to keep Matt and go into administration, I feel that speaks volumes about the man and his mindset......and some of us wanted him back![/p][/quote]I`m glad that Di Canio has gone but I cant agree on that. I think it was disgusting that the news of Matt`s transfer came from the player himself. I also think that Di Canio always believed that ample funds were just around the corner. umpcah

8:52am Fri 1 Mar 13

mancrobin says...

Med Red wrote:
I think we should wait to hear from Paolo before passing judgement. There's always two sides to a story.

I'm looking forward to today's press conference introducing the new manager and his team. Lets hope he can emulate the success Paolo had.
I think that's a very fair point. It'seasy for anything Paolo does to raise the emotions. so, Let's not get too excited until we know the full story and more importantly, let's focus on the future.
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: I think we should wait to hear from Paolo before passing judgement. There's always two sides to a story. I'm looking forward to today's press conference introducing the new manager and his team. Lets hope he can emulate the success Paolo had.[/p][/quote]I think that's a very fair point. It'seasy for anything Paolo does to raise the emotions. so, Let's not get too excited until we know the full story and more importantly, let's focus on the future. mancrobin

9:00am Fri 1 Mar 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

"Considering suing" does not mean he's going to. Could just as well be newspaper talk or PDC's usual bravado and they've built a story from that (BBC Wilts were saying "PDC says, 'see you in court'" which implied that the writ was winging its way to the CG already. Fat Sam was supposed to be suing the BBC over Panorama years ago but that hasn't happened.

However, it would explain a lot of his clearly drafted statements over the last few weeks, which have displayed a far greater command of English that he demonstrated on TV and the radio. Hopefully some of the PDC fanboys might see that there are two sides to every story and instead of just believing everything he says start thinking if he hasn't been positioning himself for this for a while. It's exactly what some of us have been fearing.

I hope he hasn't got a leg to stand on - whatever the clauses in his contract the survival of the club would surely take precedence? All the stuff about "hostile environment" can be put down to no one doing what Wray did and bigging up his ego when it's a bit deflated. He might need that, but it's hardly grounds for suing.

I'd just wish he'd go away now. He's doing himself no favours and he's just dragging the club's name through the mud. Regardless of what he thought of Black, Patey, McCrory or anyone else, the club took a chance of him and the fans supported him.

If we end up having to pay him and his staff (don't forget they'd sue as well) plus legal costs, we could be finished.
"Considering suing" does not mean he's going to. Could just as well be newspaper talk or PDC's usual bravado and they've built a story from that (BBC Wilts were saying "PDC says, 'see you in court'" which implied that the writ was winging its way to the CG already. Fat Sam was supposed to be suing the BBC over Panorama years ago but that hasn't happened. However, it would explain a lot of his clearly drafted statements over the last few weeks, which have displayed a far greater command of English that he demonstrated on TV and the radio. Hopefully some of the PDC fanboys might see that there are two sides to every story and instead of just believing everything he says start thinking if he hasn't been positioning himself for this for a while. It's exactly what some of us have been fearing. I hope he hasn't got a leg to stand on - whatever the clauses in his contract the survival of the club would surely take precedence? All the stuff about "hostile environment" can be put down to no one doing what Wray did and bigging up his ego when it's a bit deflated. He might need that, but it's hardly grounds for suing. I'd just wish he'd go away now. He's doing himself no favours and he's just dragging the club's name through the mud. Regardless of what he thought of Black, Patey, McCrory or anyone else, the club took a chance of him and the fans supported him. If we end up having to pay him and his staff (don't forget they'd sue as well) plus legal costs, we could be finished. Jeremy Hilary Boob

9:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

NORTH STAND says...

The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue)
Hollands has been sent back to Charlton
Bostock has gone back to Spurs
Martin has gone back to Norwich
The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs
The best motivator in league goes with him
New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis
Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town


Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....?

Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line...

Scary stuff!
The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff! NORTH STAND

9:08am Fri 1 Mar 13

Since 1950 says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery! Since 1950

9:19am Fri 1 Mar 13

Redhouse Red says...

I'm still convinced he's not bi polar
I'm still convinced he's not bi polar Redhouse Red

9:19am Fri 1 Mar 13

stfcknowitall says...

Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face.

Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!! stfcknowitall

9:25am Fri 1 Mar 13

Davidsyrett says...

I hope this is just newspaper rubbish, be interesting if PdC come out and denies it.

If he is going to sue it will just go to show what he really thought about the club.
I hope this is just newspaper rubbish, be interesting if PdC come out and denies it. If he is going to sue it will just go to show what he really thought about the club. Davidsyrett

9:28am Fri 1 Mar 13

Davethered says...

This bloke is now going right down in my estimation. First he walks out on the club because the takeover hasn't been agreed in time for him , then he comes in at 1.00am to collect his belongings , not forgetting all the players he fell out with and the money he wasted. Carry on like this Mr Dicanio and I can see you not getting another job in football. We all know your a bit of a livewire , but why drag this thing on and on , it's finished with , move on with the very little bit of pride you have left.
BYE BYE
This bloke is now going right down in my estimation. First he walks out on the club because the takeover hasn't been agreed in time for him , then he comes in at 1.00am to collect his belongings , not forgetting all the players he fell out with and the money he wasted. Carry on like this Mr Dicanio and I can see you not getting another job in football. We all know your a bit of a livewire , but why drag this thing on and on , it's finished with , move on with the very little bit of pride you have left. BYE BYE Davethered

9:34am Fri 1 Mar 13

Wembley69 says...

Well the Chairman of West Ham didnt want to know PdC before this so now! As a Chairman would you want such a high maintenance manager? Bear in mind he quit he wasnt sacked, also a board of directors cannot be held to blame if they sell an asset to keep a business going, the consequences of not selling Ritchie were points deduction, a fine and possible demotion, so where does the duty of care lie to a manager or to the club? If the previous board tried to inform PdC then there is no case to answer even if they didnt under the time restraints that they were under could be a justifiable excuse. Anyone remember a previous occaison when we were taken to court by someone who tried to take the club over and failed? I think the end result will be that PdC will make himself unemployable which is a great shame as he did a good job for us and could have gone onto something bigger?
Well the Chairman of West Ham didnt want to know PdC before this so now! As a Chairman would you want such a high maintenance manager? Bear in mind he quit he wasnt sacked, also a board of directors cannot be held to blame if they sell an asset to keep a business going, the consequences of not selling Ritchie were points deduction, a fine and possible demotion, so where does the duty of care lie to a manager or to the club? If the previous board tried to inform PdC then there is no case to answer even if they didnt under the time restraints that they were under could be a justifiable excuse. Anyone remember a previous occaison when we were taken to court by someone who tried to take the club over and failed? I think the end result will be that PdC will make himself unemployable which is a great shame as he did a good job for us and could have gone onto something bigger? Wembley69

9:41am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oi Den! says...

It's a real shame, because PDC's obsession with himself will stop him getting many jobs and cause problems wherever he does go.
.
I don't know whether the Mirror has got it right or not but would be surprised if they are wrong. There's a big clue in the Sky interview: "We have proof that someone told us Ritchie was not for sale." Why would he say someting like that if he wasn't preparing a case? And I wonder what this proof is and how it was obtained?

It was always going to end in tears. It was just a question of when and how.

I didn't want him to leave. I initially hoped he would change his mind. Now I'm glad he's gone. From now on, it's about the club again. The ego has lifted.
It's a real shame, because PDC's obsession with himself will stop him getting many jobs and cause problems wherever he does go. . I don't know whether the Mirror has got it right or not but would be surprised if they are wrong. There's a big clue in the Sky interview: "We have proof that someone told us Ritchie was not for sale." Why would he say someting like that if he wasn't preparing a case? And I wonder what this proof is and how it was obtained? It was always going to end in tears. It was just a question of when and how. I didn't want him to leave. I initially hoped he would change his mind. Now I'm glad he's gone. From now on, it's about the club again. The ego has lifted. Oi Den!

9:41am Fri 1 Mar 13

Bassett Hound says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue)
Hollands has been sent back to Charlton
Bostock has gone back to Spurs
Martin has gone back to Norwich
The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs
The best motivator in league goes with him
New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis
Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town


Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....?

Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line...

Scary stuff!
Idiot !
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote]Idiot ! Bassett Hound

9:43am Fri 1 Mar 13

jedthered says...

PDC did say that the truth will come out, i just hope it is not in the law courts. ive lost all respect for him if so
PDC did say that the truth will come out, i just hope it is not in the law courts. ive lost all respect for him if so jedthered

9:43am Fri 1 Mar 13

MidlandRobin says...

Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers.
Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers. MidlandRobin

9:46am Fri 1 Mar 13

Bassett Hound says...

Last step wrote:
batch wrote:
Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership.

His watch, his mess up.

If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans.

What a mess.
Would be disappointed if 'Swindon Town' was the subject of any legal action. Di Canio should be going after Black, Patey et all, the board and desicion makers at the time.

People have been saying all along that it looks like a case of constructive dismissal. Would have cost them too much to sack him.

The car crash continues.
How can selling one player constitute constructive dismissal.
[quote][p][bold]Last step[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]batch[/bold] wrote: Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership. His watch, his mess up. If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans. What a mess.[/p][/quote]Would be disappointed if 'Swindon Town' was the subject of any legal action. Di Canio should be going after Black, Patey et all, the board and desicion makers at the time. People have been saying all along that it looks like a case of constructive dismissal. Would have cost them too much to sack him. The car crash continues.[/p][/quote]How can selling one player constitute constructive dismissal. Bassett Hound

9:54am Fri 1 Mar 13

STFCman&boy1973 says...

Well done Paolo, if this is true, you should sue, everyone else would, and good luck in your future career...
Well done Paolo, if this is true, you should sue, everyone else would, and good luck in your future career... STFCman&boy1973

9:58am Fri 1 Mar 13

Stilloyal says...

Seems to me that Paolo clearly has mental health issues, his behaviour of late is not that of a rational person.
Sad thing is that his support from Town fans is on the wane and he is in danger of losing ALL the support from every fan that treated him as a god. A very sad situation, please drop it Paolo and go whilst some still revere you as "The Man ".

Another sad point is that Paolo's recent actions are going to put him out of the running for any managers job in England, who would want to employ anyone this unstable ?
Seems to me that Paolo clearly has mental health issues, his behaviour of late is not that of a rational person. Sad thing is that his support from Town fans is on the wane and he is in danger of losing ALL the support from every fan that treated him as a god. A very sad situation, please drop it Paolo and go whilst some still revere you as "The Man ". Another sad point is that Paolo's recent actions are going to put him out of the running for any managers job in England, who would want to employ anyone this unstable ? Stilloyal

9:58am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oi Den! says...

MidlandRobin wrote:
Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers.
I wouldn't put it quite like that but it's interesting that many of the people now feeling disillusioned with PDC are the very same people who shouted down anyone who dared to question him in any way.
[quote][p][bold]MidlandRobin[/bold] wrote: Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't put it quite like that but it's interesting that many of the people now feeling disillusioned with PDC are the very same people who shouted down anyone who dared to question him in any way. Oi Den!

9:59am Fri 1 Mar 13

stfcknowitall says...

STFCman&boy1973 wrote:
Well done Paolo, if this is true, you should sue, everyone else would, and good luck in your future career...
Tw@t!!
[quote][p][bold]STFCman&boy1973[/bold] wrote: Well done Paolo, if this is true, you should sue, everyone else would, and good luck in your future career...[/p][/quote]Tw@t!! stfcknowitall

10:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

STFCman&boy1973 wrote:
Well done Paolo, if this is true, you should sue, everyone else would, and good luck in your future career...
Are you insane?

We'd have to pay up the rest of his contract - 2 years at something between £450k and £850k a year according to people on here. Plus the backroom staff as well.

We could find ourselves having to pay £1m-£2m to a manager and his staff who walked out on his because not everything was going their way.

I'd rather the club went bankrupt than paid him a penny.
[quote][p][bold]STFCman&boy1973[/bold] wrote: Well done Paolo, if this is true, you should sue, everyone else would, and good luck in your future career...[/p][/quote]Are you insane? We'd have to pay up the rest of his contract - 2 years at something between £450k and £850k a year according to people on here. Plus the backroom staff as well. We could find ourselves having to pay £1m-£2m to a manager and his staff who walked out on his because not everything was going their way. I'd rather the club went bankrupt than paid him a penny. Jeremy Hilary Boob

10:03am Fri 1 Mar 13

NORTH STAND says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote:
The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue)
Hollands has been sent back to Charlton
Bostock has gone back to Spurs
Martin has gone back to Norwich
The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs
The best motivator in league goes with him
New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis
Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town


Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....?

Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line...

Scary stuff!
Idiot !
Good input! did you spellcheck that?

Salesman's dream some of you - want some new windows (if you buy one you get one free!!!!) Quick though all be gone tomorrow....

Now then - take your partner by the hand...
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote]Idiot ![/p][/quote]Good input! did you spellcheck that? Salesman's dream some of you - want some new windows (if you buy one you get one free!!!!) Quick though all be gone tomorrow.... Now then - take your partner by the hand... NORTH STAND

10:06am Fri 1 Mar 13

Med Red says...

stfcknowitall wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
Andy King wasn't that bad a manager, got us to the play-offs on a shoe-string budget.
[quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!![/p][/quote]Andy King wasn't that bad a manager, got us to the play-offs on a shoe-string budget. Med Red

10:07am Fri 1 Mar 13

NORTH STAND says...

Oi Den! wrote:
MidlandRobin wrote:
Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers.
I wouldn't put it quite like that but it's interesting that many of the people now feeling disillusioned with PDC are the very same people who shouted down anyone who dared to question him in any way.
Remember that Den - remember it when you drive up Nailsworth hill the year after next for Forest Green away...

At least as we lie on our death beds we will be able to remember that time we were sustainable....
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MidlandRobin[/bold] wrote: Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't put it quite like that but it's interesting that many of the people now feeling disillusioned with PDC are the very same people who shouted down anyone who dared to question him in any way.[/p][/quote]Remember that Den - remember it when you drive up Nailsworth hill the year after next for Forest Green away... At least as we lie on our death beds we will be able to remember that time we were sustainable.... NORTH STAND

10:07am Fri 1 Mar 13

Jeremy Hilary Boob says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
Last step wrote:
batch wrote:
Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership.

His watch, his mess up.

If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans.

What a mess.
Would be disappointed if 'Swindon Town' was the subject of any legal action. Di Canio should be going after Black, Patey et all, the board and desicion makers at the time.

People have been saying all along that it looks like a case of constructive dismissal. Would have cost them too much to sack him.

The car crash continues.
How can selling one player constitute constructive dismissal.
Can't see how it does - and the club could always argue that they had to sell Ritchie to avoid going into administration.

I don't think many have said there's a case for constructive dismissal, but a few of us have said that there was the possibility that this was what he was up to.

Any claim would be against the club, not Black, Patey, etc. All he could sue them for would be libel/slander andwhat Black came out with on Twitter seemed reasoned and thought out and not the rantings of someone who posted first and regretted it later.
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Last step[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]batch[/bold] wrote: Lets hope Black was made to put money in Escrow as part of the sale to cover unexpected liabilities arising from his ownership. His watch, his mess up. If this is at all true I'm disappointed in PDC if he chooses to sue the club. He is a man annoyed, and maybe justifiably so. Who is he trying to hurt here, the man/men who forced him out, or the club and ultimately the fans. What a mess.[/p][/quote]Would be disappointed if 'Swindon Town' was the subject of any legal action. Di Canio should be going after Black, Patey et all, the board and desicion makers at the time. People have been saying all along that it looks like a case of constructive dismissal. Would have cost them too much to sack him. The car crash continues.[/p][/quote]How can selling one player constitute constructive dismissal.[/p][/quote]Can't see how it does - and the club could always argue that they had to sell Ritchie to avoid going into administration. I don't think many have said there's a case for constructive dismissal, but a few of us have said that there was the possibility that this was what he was up to. Any claim would be against the club, not Black, Patey, etc. All he could sue them for would be libel/slander andwhat Black came out with on Twitter seemed reasoned and thought out and not the rantings of someone who posted first and regretted it later. Jeremy Hilary Boob

10:07am Fri 1 Mar 13

hertz says...

We must all try to draw a line under it , we now have a new manager which has probably peed him off it also means he is now off radar , as they say " there is no such thing as bad publicity" , all he craves is to keep his name in those papers to keep his profile out there .He has had 18 months in our spotlight and that light has just been turned off and will start shining on someone else . Good Luck Kevin and Welcome COYR.
We must all try to draw a line under it , we now have a new manager which has probably peed him off it also means he is now off radar , as they say " there is no such thing as bad publicity" , all he craves is to keep his name in those papers to keep his profile out there .He has had 18 months in our spotlight and that light has just been turned off and will start shining on someone else . Good Luck Kevin and Welcome COYR. hertz

10:09am Fri 1 Mar 13

Wessex Warrior says...

I wouldn't assume that this situation is 'totally different' to Curbishley. Constructive dismissal is constructive dismissal. It all depends on what was in his contract and as has been said, any football club would be mad to include a clause that says players can only be sold with the manager's consent. Completley mad.

It's never straightforward to build and prove a constructive dismissal case, but it doesn't stop people from trying. Particularly those who are angry and emotional.

Paolo will feel that Andrew Black giving up on the budget and much-vanted three-year plan, and the sale of our best player, have thwarted him in his ability to fulfill the terms of his contract (and secure a big bonus for getting us into the Championship). Well they have I suppose. We're all frustrated about that, even if we understand the reasons why.

It will all depend on what is stated in his conract, and in other documents. I would be incredulous if the 'three year plan is' written in tablets of stone. Even then, there will be mitigating circumstances, i.e. we had no future financing of losses and faced administration. A business cannot plunge itself further into debt (and with who's money) just to allow an employee a better chance of earning a bonus.

I don't think he's got a very good chance of winning a constructive dismissal case, unless there is something daft written into his contract. But inevitably it would cost the club legal fees. And the action has to be brought against his former employer, which is Swindon Town Football Club, not Andrew Black. You would have thought that this possibility formed part of the new owner's due diligence (and possibly raised by the Football League), or indemnity from the previous owners was sought, but this would normally be 'in the price' at the transfer of ownership.
I wouldn't assume that this situation is 'totally different' to Curbishley. Constructive dismissal is constructive dismissal. It all depends on what was in his contract and as has been said, any football club would be mad to include a clause that says players can only be sold with the manager's consent. Completley mad. It's never straightforward to build and prove a constructive dismissal case, but it doesn't stop people from trying. Particularly those who are angry and emotional. Paolo will feel that Andrew Black giving up on the budget and much-vanted three-year plan, and the sale of our best player, have thwarted him in his ability to fulfill the terms of his contract (and secure a big bonus for getting us into the Championship). Well they have I suppose. We're all frustrated about that, even if we understand the reasons why. It will all depend on what is stated in his conract, and in other documents. I would be incredulous if the 'three year plan is' written in tablets of stone. Even then, there will be mitigating circumstances, i.e. we had no future financing of losses and faced administration. A business cannot plunge itself further into debt (and with who's money) just to allow an employee a better chance of earning a bonus. I don't think he's got a very good chance of winning a constructive dismissal case, unless there is something daft written into his contract. But inevitably it would cost the club legal fees. And the action has to be brought against his former employer, which is Swindon Town Football Club, not Andrew Black. You would have thought that this possibility formed part of the new owner's due diligence (and possibly raised by the Football League), or indemnity from the previous owners was sought, but this would normally be 'in the price' at the transfer of ownership. Wessex Warrior

10:09am Fri 1 Mar 13

the wizard says...

As the manager he was an employee of the club. So the owner decides he has to sell a player to save the club. I dont see why he has to notify anyone. Its clear cut, Black is the owner, not the manager . Did PDC have the majority shareholding, no.
Typical of PDC's behavior, if he does sue he will not get another job managing a club in this country.
Self destruct now well and truly under way, and just where is Spencer, did he get an agents cut out of the sale ??? intresting if he did, because PDC would have know about that or did Spencer go behind his back ?
As the manager he was an employee of the club. So the owner decides he has to sell a player to save the club. I dont see why he has to notify anyone. Its clear cut, Black is the owner, not the manager . Did PDC have the majority shareholding, no. Typical of PDC's behavior, if he does sue he will not get another job managing a club in this country. Self destruct now well and truly under way, and just where is Spencer, did he get an agents cut out of the sale ??? intresting if he did, because PDC would have know about that or did Spencer go behind his back ? the wizard

10:14am Fri 1 Mar 13

FORZASTFC says...

Paolo, please leave us with a bit of dignity & be remembered as a LEGEND at STFC.
If this is true and you go ahead then you are truly "SCUM".
Paolo, please leave us with a bit of dignity & be remembered as a LEGEND at STFC. If this is true and you go ahead then you are truly "SCUM". FORZASTFC

10:15am Fri 1 Mar 13

super reds says...

In hindsight, it's all down to Di Canio anyway, bringing in Atiku, Risser, Comazzi among others on 2 year contracts, then letting them go after 8 months or so whilst paying up their contracts, if this hadn't been done , yes we would have had a crap team, but we wouldn't of been short of the money we needed which we got from the Ritchie sale, that's my take anyway
In hindsight, it's all down to Di Canio anyway, bringing in Atiku, Risser, Comazzi among others on 2 year contracts, then letting them go after 8 months or so whilst paying up their contracts, if this hadn't been done , yes we would have had a crap team, but we wouldn't of been short of the money we needed which we got from the Ritchie sale, that's my take anyway super reds

10:27am Fri 1 Mar 13

Graham8181 says...

GO AWAY PAOLO!!! Are we still talking about this guy? Firstly I don't believe anything the sun says. Following this it's the owners decision to sell. We can sue all your back rooms support who are employed by Swindon not by you. Paolo just wants to stay in the spotlight until the west ham job becomes vacant as I think he's got his eye half on that. Saw him talking about it in yesterday's papers and having a little dig at Allardyce. Poor west ham if they employ him, little do they know what they are letting themselves in for.
Your gone Paolo we have a great potential manager come in who won't care about his own CV ahead of that of his clubs, if we kept on operating in ur way we prob would have been kicked out of the league by now in administration. Villa fans have told me macdonald is a great appointment, did so much for Villa. We are going up say we are going up!! Now go sit back down in your arm chair Paolo and don't forget to go pick up your job seekers allowance fortnightly. It's rising from £70 to £75+ in a month or so. Maybe you could pump the extra £5 back each time to the pointless signings you wasted so much money on.
Good luck Maconald very happy with his appointment
GO AWAY PAOLO!!! Are we still talking about this guy? Firstly I don't believe anything the sun says. Following this it's the owners decision to sell. We can sue all your back rooms support who are employed by Swindon not by you. Paolo just wants to stay in the spotlight until the west ham job becomes vacant as I think he's got his eye half on that. Saw him talking about it in yesterday's papers and having a little dig at Allardyce. Poor west ham if they employ him, little do they know what they are letting themselves in for. Your gone Paolo we have a great potential manager come in who won't care about his own CV ahead of that of his clubs, if we kept on operating in ur way we prob would have been kicked out of the league by now in administration. Villa fans have told me macdonald is a great appointment, did so much for Villa. We are going up say we are going up!! Now go sit back down in your arm chair Paolo and don't forget to go pick up your job seekers allowance fortnightly. It's rising from £70 to £75+ in a month or so. Maybe you could pump the extra £5 back each time to the pointless signings you wasted so much money on. Good luck Maconald very happy with his appointment Graham8181

10:28am Fri 1 Mar 13

peatmoor pirate says...

Med Red wrote:
stfcknowitall wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
Andy King wasn't that bad a manager, got us to the play-offs on a shoe-string budget.
Echo that about Andy King; people forget he got us to play offs in L1 when we were struggling to pay wages etc. What would he have done with th money Paolo had?
[quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!![/p][/quote]Andy King wasn't that bad a manager, got us to the play-offs on a shoe-string budget.[/p][/quote]Echo that about Andy King; people forget he got us to play offs in L1 when we were struggling to pay wages etc. What would he have done with th money Paolo had? peatmoor pirate

10:31am Fri 1 Mar 13

Wilesy says...

He won't have a leg to stand on if he takes it to court and Black hires a half decent lawyer, whether PDC knew about the Ritchie sale or not.

a) Day after the Ritchie sale PDC was given the funds to secure 3 new loan players shows there was no intent to weaken the team, despite the FL scuppering that.

b) He continued working after that, he didn't walk then. Ok he issued a statement saying he wasn't happy, but then no-one at Swindon was happy with that, least of all Ritchie I should imagine.

c) He then signed a new temporary contract which he didn't have to do, and called the clubs bluff / held them to ransom with a ridiculous 5pm deadline of get the deal done or lose the great Di Canio. Can't blame Black or Jed for the delay!

d) Also he could have called the club to see what was happening at 5pm, but chose not to.

If he sues that will be that for his managerial career, if it isn't dead in the water already. A pity but then his style wouldn't work at a higher level anyway, and any chairman with half a wit wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, he would be trouble with a capital T.

I know he won't but if he's serious about being a top manager he should move on from this, get another League 1 / League 2 club, show some humility / lessons learnt from his time here, and knuckle down, changing his dictator-style of managment. Or just go back to the Italian media.
He won't have a leg to stand on if he takes it to court and Black hires a half decent lawyer, whether PDC knew about the Ritchie sale or not. a) Day after the Ritchie sale PDC was given the funds to secure 3 new loan players shows there was no intent to weaken the team, despite the FL scuppering that. b) He continued working after that, he didn't walk then. Ok he issued a statement saying he wasn't happy, but then no-one at Swindon was happy with that, least of all Ritchie I should imagine. c) He then signed a new temporary contract which he didn't have to do, and called the clubs bluff / held them to ransom with a ridiculous 5pm deadline of get the deal done or lose the great Di Canio. Can't blame Black or Jed for the delay! d) Also he could have called the club to see what was happening at 5pm, but chose not to. If he sues that will be that for his managerial career, if it isn't dead in the water already. A pity but then his style wouldn't work at a higher level anyway, and any chairman with half a wit wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, he would be trouble with a capital T. I know he won't but if he's serious about being a top manager he should move on from this, get another League 1 / League 2 club, show some humility / lessons learnt from his time here, and knuckle down, changing his dictator-style of managment. Or just go back to the Italian media. Wilesy

10:37am Fri 1 Mar 13

bertred63 says...

Paolo!Paolo!Paolo! dear oh dear what a plonker!!!!!.
Now your just showing your true colours
and making yourself look like a spoilt kid whos had his toys taken away. Grow a pair and just leave with dignity and let us remember you for all the right reasons.
On a more positive note am looking forward to the new regime and championship football next season.
Paolo!Paolo!Paolo! dear oh dear what a plonker!!!!!. Now your just showing your true colours and making yourself look like a spoilt kid whos had his toys taken away. Grow a pair and just leave with dignity and let us remember you for all the right reasons. On a more positive note am looking forward to the new regime and championship football next season. bertred63

10:39am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oi Den! says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
MidlandRobin wrote:
Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers.
I wouldn't put it quite like that but it's interesting that many of the people now feeling disillusioned with PDC are the very same people who shouted down anyone who dared to question him in any way.
Remember that Den - remember it when you drive up Nailsworth hill the year after next for Forest Green away...

At least as we lie on our death beds we will be able to remember that time we were sustainable....
I'll tell you what I will remember. I will remember that there is room for all points of view; I will remember that it is unwise to indulge in unconditional hero-worship; I will remember that PDC brought great charisma, excellent coaching skills, good football and success; I will remember that PDC wasted a fortune on behalf of the club and still complained that he wasn't given enough money to work with; I will remember that PDC misjudged his employers and pushed them one step too far by quitting in a fit of pique and then expecting them to come chasing after him
.
As it happens, I have strong concerns about the future of the club. But what is your alternative to the club sustaining itself? An "investor" like Andrew Black pouring money into the club to sustain the manager's whims, regardless of his track record in spending it? Where would that lead?

I would take non-League football any day compared with the alternative of having no club to support.
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MidlandRobin[/bold] wrote: Not such a saint now Di Canio-Lovers.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't put it quite like that but it's interesting that many of the people now feeling disillusioned with PDC are the very same people who shouted down anyone who dared to question him in any way.[/p][/quote]Remember that Den - remember it when you drive up Nailsworth hill the year after next for Forest Green away... At least as we lie on our death beds we will be able to remember that time we were sustainable....[/p][/quote]I'll tell you what I will remember. I will remember that there is room for all points of view; I will remember that it is unwise to indulge in unconditional hero-worship; I will remember that PDC brought great charisma, excellent coaching skills, good football and success; I will remember that PDC wasted a fortune on behalf of the club and still complained that he wasn't given enough money to work with; I will remember that PDC misjudged his employers and pushed them one step too far by quitting in a fit of pique and then expecting them to come chasing after him . As it happens, I have strong concerns about the future of the club. But what is your alternative to the club sustaining itself? An "investor" like Andrew Black pouring money into the club to sustain the manager's whims, regardless of his track record in spending it? Where would that lead? I would take non-League football any day compared with the alternative of having no club to support. Oi Den!

10:41am Fri 1 Mar 13

Since 1950 says...

stfcknowitall wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot.
[quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!![/p][/quote]Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot. Since 1950

10:51am Fri 1 Mar 13

Wessex Warrior says...

Wilesy wrote:
He won't have a leg to stand on if he takes it to court and Black hires a half decent lawyer, whether PDC knew about the Ritchie sale or not. a) Day after the Ritchie sale PDC was given the funds to secure 3 new loan players shows there was no intent to weaken the team, despite the FL scuppering that. b) He continued working after that, he didn't walk then. Ok he issued a statement saying he wasn't happy, but then no-one at Swindon was happy with that, least of all Ritchie I should imagine. c) He then signed a new temporary contract which he didn't have to do, and called the clubs bluff / held them to ransom with a ridiculous 5pm deadline of get the deal done or lose the great Di Canio. Can't blame Black or Jed for the delay! d) Also he could have called the club to see what was happening at 5pm, but chose not to. If he sues that will be that for his managerial career, if it isn't dead in the water already. A pity but then his style wouldn't work at a higher level anyway, and any chairman with half a wit wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, he would be trouble with a capital T. I know he won't but if he's serious about being a top manager he should move on from this, get another League 1 / League 2 club, show some humility / lessons learnt from his time here, and knuckle down, changing his dictator-style of managment. Or just go back to the Italian media.
Makes you wonder if the club put in the three loan transfers as counter-posturing, because they knew they did not have a cat in hell's chance of being approved by the Football League.
[quote][p][bold]Wilesy[/bold] wrote: He won't have a leg to stand on if he takes it to court and Black hires a half decent lawyer, whether PDC knew about the Ritchie sale or not. a) Day after the Ritchie sale PDC was given the funds to secure 3 new loan players shows there was no intent to weaken the team, despite the FL scuppering that. b) He continued working after that, he didn't walk then. Ok he issued a statement saying he wasn't happy, but then no-one at Swindon was happy with that, least of all Ritchie I should imagine. c) He then signed a new temporary contract which he didn't have to do, and called the clubs bluff / held them to ransom with a ridiculous 5pm deadline of get the deal done or lose the great Di Canio. Can't blame Black or Jed for the delay! d) Also he could have called the club to see what was happening at 5pm, but chose not to. If he sues that will be that for his managerial career, if it isn't dead in the water already. A pity but then his style wouldn't work at a higher level anyway, and any chairman with half a wit wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, he would be trouble with a capital T. I know he won't but if he's serious about being a top manager he should move on from this, get another League 1 / League 2 club, show some humility / lessons learnt from his time here, and knuckle down, changing his dictator-style of managment. Or just go back to the Italian media.[/p][/quote]Makes you wonder if the club put in the three loan transfers as counter-posturing, because they knew they did not have a cat in hell's chance of being approved by the Football League. Wessex Warrior

10:51am Fri 1 Mar 13

Another view says...

old town robin says...
8:39am Fri 1 Mar 13

There were a few on here thinking Curbishley would have been a good shout for the new manager. He made his 2 million out of West Ham and never worked as a manager again and probably never will, because he is tainted and no club with any sense will ever employ him. If Paolo Di Canio goes down the same route, I can't think of anyone would want him either.”

- The same happened to Lou Macari after he spent years sueing Celtic for unfair dismissal. He and Curbishley could/should have gone onto greater things.

As regards Paolo, the club backed him to the hilt over the Clarke bust-up, the Tehouih racial discrimination claim, and they brought funds forward to allow loan players to come in on deadline day - after he had previously blown the budget!

There of course will have been other issues where the club backed him above and beyond. Black said he was always in your face, so human nature says you make some concessions until he goes one step too far.
old town robin says... 8:39am Fri 1 Mar 13 There were a few on here thinking Curbishley would have been a good shout for the new manager. He made his 2 million out of West Ham and never worked as a manager again and probably never will, because he is tainted and no club with any sense will ever employ him. If Paolo Di Canio goes down the same route, I can't think of anyone would want him either.” - The same happened to Lou Macari after he spent years sueing Celtic for unfair dismissal. He and Curbishley could/should have gone onto greater things. As regards Paolo, the club backed him to the hilt over the Clarke bust-up, the Tehouih racial discrimination claim, and they brought funds forward to allow loan players to come in on deadline day - after he had previously blown the budget! There of course will have been other issues where the club backed him above and beyond. Black said he was always in your face, so human nature says you make some concessions until he goes one step too far. Another view

10:52am Fri 1 Mar 13

LydiardRED67 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
stfcknowitall wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot.
I will ignore the hysteria that some on he haveregarding Di Canio and who seem to be defending him above the club itself and raise the hub of this issue.

Any constructive dismissal claim appears to revolve around the sale of Ritchie and whether he was informed or not.

Black has stated that he was more than aware, PDC says not.

If PDC has only verbal proof then so does Black and as I stated earlier it is one mans word against the other.

The other thing to remember is that a contract does not just revolve around one clause, and the club may have cause to counter sue elsewhere.

Also, did PDC issue and brief out his club discipline process? It appeared that players could be cast away for a wide range of issues.

Personally I don't think anything will come of this and any action will depend upon the strength of PDC evidence.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!![/p][/quote]Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot.[/p][/quote]I will ignore the hysteria that some on he haveregarding Di Canio and who seem to be defending him above the club itself and raise the hub of this issue. Any constructive dismissal claim appears to revolve around the sale of Ritchie and whether he was informed or not. Black has stated that he was more than aware, PDC says not. If PDC has only verbal proof then so does Black and as I stated earlier it is one mans word against the other. The other thing to remember is that a contract does not just revolve around one clause, and the club may have cause to counter sue elsewhere. Also, did PDC issue and brief out his club discipline process? It appeared that players could be cast away for a wide range of issues. Personally I don't think anything will come of this and any action will depend upon the strength of PDC evidence. LydiardRED67

10:55am Fri 1 Mar 13

ShearerShearer says...

the wizard wrote:
As the manager he was an employee of the club. So the owner decides he has to sell a player to save the club. I dont see why he has to notify anyone. Its clear cut, Black is the owner, not the manager . Did PDC have the majority shareholding, no. Typical of PDC's behavior, if he does sue he will not get another job managing a club in this country. Self destruct now well and truly under way, and just where is Spencer, did he get an agents cut out of the sale ??? intresting if he did, because PDC would have know about that or did Spencer go behind his back ?
It's common decency for AB to have discussed it with PDC because of the nature of their positions.

AB lacked that imo, PDC has disappointed me in the way he has dealt with this so far, very sad.

Faults lie in both camps, and has been said before on here, the biggest problem was that old favourite - COMMUNICATION - upwards and downwards.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: As the manager he was an employee of the club. So the owner decides he has to sell a player to save the club. I dont see why he has to notify anyone. Its clear cut, Black is the owner, not the manager . Did PDC have the majority shareholding, no. Typical of PDC's behavior, if he does sue he will not get another job managing a club in this country. Self destruct now well and truly under way, and just where is Spencer, did he get an agents cut out of the sale ??? intresting if he did, because PDC would have know about that or did Spencer go behind his back ?[/p][/quote]It's common decency for AB to have discussed it with PDC because of the nature of their positions. AB lacked that imo, PDC has disappointed me in the way he has dealt with this so far, very sad. Faults lie in both camps, and has been said before on here, the biggest problem was that old favourite - COMMUNICATION - upwards and downwards. ShearerShearer

10:56am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oi Den! says...

1950, although I agree that it was wrong for Ritchie to be sold without the manager's knowledge, I think he should understand that the circumstances were exceptional. If he really cared about the club and the fans in the way he always said, he would have taken it on the chin and used it as an opportunity to show what a good manager he can be in (realative) adversity. Instead, he just reinforced many people's view that can't/won't manage a club without having everything going his own way.
1950, although I agree that it was wrong for Ritchie to be sold without the manager's knowledge, I think he should understand that the circumstances were exceptional. If he really cared about the club and the fans in the way he always said, he would have taken it on the chin and used it as an opportunity to show what a good manager he can be in (realative) adversity. Instead, he just reinforced many people's view that can't/won't manage a club without having everything going his own way. Oi Den!

10:59am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oi Den! says...

"relative"
"relative" Oi Den!

11:07am Fri 1 Mar 13

Since 1950 says...

Oi Den! wrote:
1950, although I agree that it was wrong for Ritchie to be sold without the manager's knowledge, I think he should understand that the circumstances were exceptional. If he really cared about the club and the fans in the way he always said, he would have taken it on the chin and used it as an opportunity to show what a good manager he can be in (realative) adversity. Instead, he just reinforced many people's view that can't/won't manage a club without having everything going his own way.
Den. I fully understand that Paolo is not without blame in all this.

I am gutted and disappointed at the way he chose to make his exit. He let himself down in my book as well as the fans who couldn't have done more to support him.

I was just trying to draw some balance here from those who choose to try and attempt a character assassination of the man who put some real pride back into the shirt. The other side of the coin is that I believe all this was done to get rid of the man, as I have oft said now.

Bye the way I note reference to FGR in earlier posts. Are you in the Stroud lacation also?
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: 1950, although I agree that it was wrong for Ritchie to be sold without the manager's knowledge, I think he should understand that the circumstances were exceptional. If he really cared about the club and the fans in the way he always said, he would have taken it on the chin and used it as an opportunity to show what a good manager he can be in (realative) adversity. Instead, he just reinforced many people's view that can't/won't manage a club without having everything going his own way.[/p][/quote]Den. I fully understand that Paolo is not without blame in all this. I am gutted and disappointed at the way he chose to make his exit. He let himself down in my book as well as the fans who couldn't have done more to support him. I was just trying to draw some balance here from those who choose to try and attempt a character assassination of the man who put some real pride back into the shirt. The other side of the coin is that I believe all this was done to get rid of the man, as I have oft said now. Bye the way I note reference to FGR in earlier posts. Are you in the Stroud lacation also? Since 1950

11:07am Fri 1 Mar 13

DBTSTFC says...

SNORE!!!!!!

Had enough of this now lets talk about STFC, Macdonald and a nice 3-0 win tomorrow.

COYR
SNORE!!!!!! Had enough of this now lets talk about STFC, Macdonald and a nice 3-0 win tomorrow. COYR DBTSTFC

11:10am Fri 1 Mar 13

BillyLucas4me says...

Mention of 'his staff' begs the question
'who paid them, Pdc or the Club'?
Mention of 'his staff' begs the question 'who paid them, Pdc or the Club'? BillyLucas4me

11:16am Fri 1 Mar 13

davel4848 says...

Since 1950 wrote:
stfcknowitall wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot.
Get real 1950 !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!![/p][/quote]Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot.[/p][/quote]Get real 1950 !!!!!! davel4848

11:23am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oi Den! says...

Since 1950 wrote:
Oi Den! wrote:
1950, although I agree that it was wrong for Ritchie to be sold without the manager's knowledge, I think he should understand that the circumstances were exceptional. If he really cared about the club and the fans in the way he always said, he would have taken it on the chin and used it as an opportunity to show what a good manager he can be in (realative) adversity. Instead, he just reinforced many people's view that can't/won't manage a club without having everything going his own way.
Den. I fully understand that Paolo is not without blame in all this.

I am gutted and disappointed at the way he chose to make his exit. He let himself down in my book as well as the fans who couldn't have done more to support him.

I was just trying to draw some balance here from those who choose to try and attempt a character assassination of the man who put some real pride back into the shirt. The other side of the coin is that I believe all this was done to get rid of the man, as I have oft said now.

Bye the way I note reference to FGR in earlier posts. Are you in the Stroud lacation also?
1950, it was NORTH STAND who mentioned FGR. I'm in Stratton.

I doubt that it was all engineered to get rid of PDC. The club clearly didn't want to sell Ritchie. Black said he blocked the move initially but in the end felt there was no choice. They couldn't have known that PDC was going to quit. They may well now feel that they are better off without him but I think he cooked his own goose.
[quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: 1950, although I agree that it was wrong for Ritchie to be sold without the manager's knowledge, I think he should understand that the circumstances were exceptional. If he really cared about the club and the fans in the way he always said, he would have taken it on the chin and used it as an opportunity to show what a good manager he can be in (realative) adversity. Instead, he just reinforced many people's view that can't/won't manage a club without having everything going his own way.[/p][/quote]Den. I fully understand that Paolo is not without blame in all this. I am gutted and disappointed at the way he chose to make his exit. He let himself down in my book as well as the fans who couldn't have done more to support him. I was just trying to draw some balance here from those who choose to try and attempt a character assassination of the man who put some real pride back into the shirt. The other side of the coin is that I believe all this was done to get rid of the man, as I have oft said now. Bye the way I note reference to FGR in earlier posts. Are you in the Stroud lacation also?[/p][/quote]1950, it was NORTH STAND who mentioned FGR. I'm in Stratton. I doubt that it was all engineered to get rid of PDC. The club clearly didn't want to sell Ritchie. Black said he blocked the move initially but in the end felt there was no choice. They couldn't have known that PDC was going to quit. They may well now feel that they are better off without him but I think he cooked his own goose. Oi Den!

11:24am Fri 1 Mar 13

The Jockster says...

peatmoor pirate wrote:
Med Red wrote:
stfcknowitall wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
Andy King wasn't that bad a manager, got us to the play-offs on a shoe-string budget.
Echo that about Andy King; people forget he got us to play offs in L1 when we were struggling to pay wages etc. What would he have done with th money Paolo had?
Bought more expensive and bigger Havana cigars!
[quote][p][bold]peatmoor pirate[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Med Red[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!![/p][/quote]Andy King wasn't that bad a manager, got us to the play-offs on a shoe-string budget.[/p][/quote]Echo that about Andy King; people forget he got us to play offs in L1 when we were struggling to pay wages etc. What would he have done with th money Paolo had?[/p][/quote]Bought more expensive and bigger Havana cigars! The Jockster

11:31am Fri 1 Mar 13

Since 1950 says...

davel4848 wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
stfcknowitall wrote:
Since 1950 wrote:
NORTH STAND wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff!
.....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery!
what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!!
Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot.
Get real 1950 !!!!!!
Thank you for your for that enlighteningcontribu
tion to the debate. Take you all morning to come up with that pearl of wisdom?
[quote][p][bold]davel4848[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stfcknowitall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Since 1950[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote].....Chairman sacked and someone brought in to do a hatchet job and sell to the first bidder. Players offered at 50% discount around the league..... I wonder why Paolo got the hump? It's a mystery![/p][/quote]what would you rather? Administration, League Two football and Andy King in charge?!!!....In one ear and out the next with some of you lot!! we HAD to sell Ritchie, Paolo acted like a spoilt child and couldn't accept the problems lower league clubs face. Welcome aboard Kevin Mccdonald!![/p][/quote]Not the point 'knowitall'. The point being it was done behind his back when only hours before he was assured that Ritchie was not for sale. However, as you say, in one ear and out the other with some of you lot.[/p][/quote]Get real 1950 !!!!!![/p][/quote]Thank you for your for that enlighteningcontribu tion to the debate. Take you all morning to come up with that pearl of wisdom? Since 1950

11:47am Fri 1 Mar 13

eastmidsred says...

There is little or no chance that any legal claim would succeed based on the sale of Ritchie. A day or two before PDC was made well aware that all players were available for sale, if offers were made, as a way of avoiding administration and possible liquidation.
The club has no other assets.
He is either being very badly advised or is being very stupid without considering the wider consequences. More likely that the story is just not true and the dust will settle soon. Ciao Paolo e grazie.
There is little or no chance that any legal claim would succeed based on the sale of Ritchie. A day or two before PDC was made well aware that all players were available for sale, if offers were made, as a way of avoiding administration and possible liquidation. The club has no other assets. He is either being very badly advised or is being very stupid without considering the wider consequences. More likely that the story is just not true and the dust will settle soon. Ciao Paolo e grazie. eastmidsred

11:56am Fri 1 Mar 13

Oi Den! says...

By the way NS, you said: "The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue)."
Strong words - and an ill-informed untruth. A quick look at the accounts will tell you that the loans were interest free.
By the way NS, you said: "The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue)." Strong words - and an ill-informed untruth. A quick look at the accounts will tell you that the loans were interest free. Oi Den!

12:00pm Fri 1 Mar 13

PigHill says...

If you were a Premier League Manager would you employ Di Canio!! Mr Gold, I hope you're taking note of all of this!
Give it up and move on Di Canio. You're not doing yourself any favours.
If you were a Premier League Manager would you employ Di Canio!! Mr Gold, I hope you're taking note of all of this! Give it up and move on Di Canio. You're not doing yourself any favours. PigHill

12:16pm Fri 1 Mar 13

RogerJ1969 says...

Just hope PDC does not gatecrash the McDonald press conference.

Would'nt put it past him, his reputation is fast going down the pan.

Cold light of day analysis of his signings from day one do not make impressive reading. So much club money wasted, no doubt the Agent filled his boots though.
Just hope PDC does not gatecrash the McDonald press conference. Would'nt put it past him, his reputation is fast going down the pan. Cold light of day analysis of his signings from day one do not make impressive reading. So much club money wasted, no doubt the Agent filled his boots though. RogerJ1969

12:20pm Fri 1 Mar 13

swindonthruandthru says...

god PDC is worse then my ex old lady at least she left me my shirt PDC wants it all move on get another job be happy polo
god PDC is worse then my ex old lady at least she left me my shirt PDC wants it all move on get another job be happy polo swindonthruandthru

1:41pm Fri 1 Mar 13

London Red says...

Den - we know lots of posters don't like facts
.
Much better to make sh@t up than actually do any sort of research!
Den - we know lots of posters don't like facts . Much better to make sh@t up than actually do any sort of research! London Red

1:43pm Fri 1 Mar 13

swjoduk says...

Please don't Paolo. You could go down as a Swindon legend, but if you do take action against the club your just be remembered as a villan!
Please don't Paolo. You could go down as a Swindon legend, but if you do take action against the club your just be remembered as a villan! swjoduk

2:37pm Fri 1 Mar 13

the don69 says...

NORTH STAND wrote:
The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue)
Hollands has been sent back to Charlton
Bostock has gone back to Spurs
Martin has gone back to Norwich
The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs
The best motivator in league goes with him
New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis
Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town


Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....?

Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line...

Scary stuff!
More rubbish NS!get your facts right and as for Ritchie being the best player in the league?ask Muff fans what they think of him so far?I can tell you NOT MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]NORTH STAND[/bold] wrote: The best player in the division has been sold to fund interest payments to owners (the real monthly running cost issue) Hollands has been sent back to Charlton Bostock has gone back to Spurs Martin has gone back to Norwich The best tactical brain in the league has been forced out to cut costs The best motivator in league goes with him New manager appointed on cheap as chips basis Bench for Tuesdays game would have embarrassed Cirencester Town Not looking good General, what can we do to rally the troops....? Good thinking chaps - Four legs good etc.... pick up your banjos and fall into line... Scary stuff![/p][/quote]More rubbish NS!get your facts right and as for Ritchie being the best player in the league?ask Muff fans what they think of him so far?I can tell you NOT MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the don69

3:31pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Nigel, Denver CO says...

he sounds like my ex-wife. move the fvck on already.
he sounds like my ex-wife. move the fvck on already. Nigel, Denver CO

4:03pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

I can see his next job interview right now.....

Why quit Swindon, they sold a plaaaayer behiiiind my back to avoiiid admiistration and not get deduced points....

So what would you do if we told you to sell a player, I have integrity I will quit and come back, break into the club, trespass, remove things from the walls and then **** and moan to the press..... Niiiiiice.....
I can see his next job interview right now..... Why quit Swindon, they sold a plaaaayer behiiiind my back to avoiiid admiistration and not get deduced points.... So what would you do if we told you to sell a player, I have integrity I will quit and come back, break into the club, trespass, remove things from the walls and then **** and moan to the press..... Niiiiiice..... Is that you Lovesey

4:26pm Fri 1 Mar 13

ya mums got facial hair says...

This will end up as the most expensive cheap manager we have had at stfc.
Can't understand why it's news to jed.
He said its in the legal teams hands when Ritchie was sold,that's when he said it was a breech of his contract.
Breech of contract = sue.
Should have sorted it out before that stupid Monday deadline.
Come back Paolo.
This will end up as the most expensive cheap manager we have had at stfc. Can't understand why it's news to jed. He said its in the legal teams hands when Ritchie was sold,that's when he said it was a breech of his contract. Breech of contract = sue. Should have sorted it out before that stupid Monday deadline. Come back Paolo. ya mums got facial hair

5:51pm Fri 1 Mar 13

sp2769 says...

I would like to see him try suing us as I believe the club and individuals have handfuls of counter claims and PDC knows it, ask back room staff and employees of the club they will be queuing up. Not a very liked man behind the scenes and I'm sure PDC won't want to open a can of worms if he wants to stay in the game over here...Mind you we are talking about a self obsessed man who thinks he is the chosen one, I did say it would end in tears 6 months ago. PDC would be best to keep his mouth shut and realise you can't bully your way in life. Looking forward to seeing where his next club will be, and i bet he won't last 3 months there.
I would like to see him try suing us as I believe the club and individuals have handfuls of counter claims and PDC knows it, ask back room staff and employees of the club they will be queuing up. Not a very liked man behind the scenes and I'm sure PDC won't want to open a can of worms if he wants to stay in the game over here...Mind you we are talking about a self obsessed man who thinks he is the chosen one, I did say it would end in tears 6 months ago. PDC would be best to keep his mouth shut and realise you can't bully your way in life. Looking forward to seeing where his next club will be, and i bet he won't last 3 months there. sp2769

6:41pm Fri 1 Mar 13

GUVVVV says...

Don't ask me how I know, but Paolo will not sue the club, unless he decides he will. That is straight from the inside, but don't ask me how I know
Don't ask me how I know, but Paolo will not sue the club, unless he decides he will. That is straight from the inside, but don't ask me how I know GUVVVV

7:29pm Fri 1 Mar 13

SimonPrice351 says...

I thought this might happen. Paolo is not one to go quietly.

This won't be what people want to hear, but if STFC has broken employment/contract law then they can be sued as the UK and EU rules on this are very strict and the fines can be huge.

I would urge Paolo to not go down this route, as he'd be hurting the club, fans and people that he has said he loves on countless occasions.
I thought this might happen. Paolo is not one to go quietly. This won't be what people want to hear, but if STFC has broken employment/contract law then they can be sued as the UK and EU rules on this are very strict and the fines can be huge. I would urge Paolo to not go down this route, as he'd be hurting the club, fans and people that he has said he loves on countless occasions. SimonPrice351

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