Bodin to make the most of Town chance (From This Is Swindon Town FC)

Zippy: STFC Legend.

I remember first seeing Bodin play for the Town....didn`t think much of him but he became an outstanding player for us.

You never know , he might be the same as a manager.

Spoken like a real Town man.

Someone told me maybe
Rix - Beasant - Hoddle new boss ???
Hoddle part /moving his training camp from spain to Swindon?

Good luck Paul we're all behind you. COYR

No thanks. Too much sentiment here. The problem is that we'll probably win these games without any pressure on and bodin wil be seen as god. he's a loyal subject but let's be honest NONE of his youth team have every made it at stfc

Give Billy a go!! Benyon and Bodin to get 25 goals each next season.

stfclondon wrote:
Zippy: STFC Legend.

Chuffed to bits today having read this. Have been really down since the Wednesday result and this is great news for proper Town fans.
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Good luck Zips, behind you all the way mate.

Tosh Man wrote:
No thanks. Too much sentiment here. The problem is that we'll probably win these games without any pressure on and bodin wil be seen as god. he's a loyal subject but let's be honest NONE of his youth team have every made it at stfc

Well maybe now the youth team coach/reserve team manager has stepped up to the plate as our manager, maybe our youth players will get a proper chance. its now or never for the likes of Billy Bodin, Nathan Thompson, and Will Evans to take the opportunity. I also think Abdul said is a very handy young player, and he must be part of the first team squad next season at least....

We are Zippy's Red&White Army!

Billy will not play this season - maybe as a sub not start
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Can't be seen to suddenly get in the team as his Dad is the manager!
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Unless he played Thompson and Evans - which I doubt he will
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I bet he goes:
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Lucas
Caddis Cuthbert Frampton Rose
JPM Douglas Ferry Ritchie
Andrew Benyon
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Subs
Smith
JFL
Thompson
Prutton
Timlin
Evans
Bodin
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Maybe will give the 3 youngsters some game time 2nd half if we are winning

London Red wrote:
Billy will not play this season - maybe as a sub not start . Can't be seen to suddenly get in the team as his Dad is the manager! . Unless he played Thompson and Evans - which I doubt he will . I bet he goes: . Lucas Caddis Cuthbert Frampton Rose JPM Douglas Ferry Ritchie Andrew Benyon . Subs Smith JFL Thompson Prutton Timlin Evans Bodin . Maybe will give the 3 youngsters some game time 2nd half if we are winning

if i was him i would pick the youth team and stick the other losers in the reserves , ( yes thats you douglas ) and why pick andrew ? he wont be here next season , good luck Paul , im sure you will have everyone behind you

Since 1950 wrote:
We are Zippy's Red&White Army!

Dont leave out bungle & george! how's it going in Dweeb land today?

hughcurran wrote:

Since 1950 wrote: We are Zippy's Red&White Army!

Dont leave out bungle & george! how's it going in Dweeb land today?

bungle ? we have eleven of them everytime we enter the pitch

Why Andrew? - because we have no other strikers - Hart sent them all packing!
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round pegs for round holes - something Hart said but never did!
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Ritchie needs to be out wide left where he should be not up top

Only play those who will be here next season. Forget Andrew, N'Diaye and Frampton for a start.

Feel free to play young Bodin, he deserves 2 starts (we wont call it nepotism)

All you pro Bodin guys is unreal-yeah he is loyal to the club and has done well with the youth team but that is totally different from managing at a senior level.

Dont get carried away if we win a game on saturday we have nothing to lose were down and the players will be relaxed and Oldham will just want the game over from the 1st minute so dont you lot go crazy if we win because next season is over 46 games not two and i seriously hope the board get in the right guy early. We need a manager with good contact and know how to move us forward and promoted at the firsr attempt. When you look at clubs that are going to be left in L1 there are some worse teams than us and we should have never got in this position. Next season will be hard as we will be seen as one of the big clubs and everyone will raise their game against us so its important we get the right manager and players to see us through. and that is not Bodin.

Great club servants or great players don't always make good managers but I must admit I'm very pleased to see Paul given his chance and I hope he takes it with both hands. He knows the club and players inside out and it would be fantastic to see some of our young players given a proper chance. I still can't believe we disposed of young Lloyd Macklin - he had so much promise. Kennedy needs to be in the team next season - there's a lot of youngsters knocking on the door and it's time we gave them a proper chance. Billy B should also be there on merit - I hope his chances don't suffer because his dad's in charge. It never bothered Sturrock but Paul B has a lot more integrity. Hope Paul does brilliantly in the next 2 games and keeps his position for next season. I'm glad I renewed my season ticket! COYR.

You could argue thar playing Andrew allows Bodin to see how good Benyon is or not - since playing off a big man is one of Benyon's best chances of scoring. Loose balls in the box is the only other area in which Benyon is likely to score regularly, so the midfield becomes important (to provide the right service).

Good luck to Zippy!! Not sure about him being permanent manager but if that happened I would support him 100%. The only name being bandied about that would really disappoint me is Trollope!!! I would take Bodin over him any day of the week!!! Trollope is a first class ticket to the BSP!!! WTF are people on wanting Trollope as manager??? He would be a very bad move!! As for Saturday, start Lex instead of Cuthbert, he's one of the t*ssers who thinks he's too good for Swindon, get rid!

LeGod wrote:
All you pro Bodin guys is unreal-yeah he is loyal to the club and has done well with the youth team but that is totally different from managing at a senior level. Dont get carried away if we win a game on saturday we have nothing to lose were down and the players will be relaxed and Oldham will just want the game over from the 1st minute so dont you lot go crazy if we win because next season is over 46 games not two and i seriously hope the board get in the right guy early. We need a manager with good contact and know how to move us forward and promoted at the firsr attempt. When you look at clubs that are going to be left in L1 there are some worse teams than us and we should have never got in this position. Next season will be hard as we will be seen as one of the big clubs and everyone will raise their game against us so its important we get the right manager and players to see us through. and that is not Bodin.

Come on LeGod. Lighten up! It's only tongue-in-cheek. Bodin will only be in the position until the end of the season. He's doing a great job wiv the Yoofs.

castle9 wrote:
Only play those who will be here next season. Forget Andrew, N'Diaye and Frampton for a start. Feel free to play young Bodin, he deserves 2 starts (we wont call it nepotism)

Agree castle9. A 'fresh start' is what is needed. I doubt whether Andrew will be here at the weekend-unless we intend to sign him. Two games to see what the youngsters have got.

I haven't seen Bodin play since the Forest friendly but he didn't look ready then. Best scenario is he comes on for the last 15-20 mins when we're 3 up!

I believe there may have been trouble if Hart had been on the bench Saturday.
I wanted Paul to be given a chance.

Hi Guys

Just curious but how many people who said that they won't renew are now going to renew their season ticket now that things look a bit more settled and exciting - let's hope lots to really build an atmosphere at home games next season.

Paul Bodin is smart, articulate and knows about coaching - he is also a figure who commands respect at the County Ground and knows the strengths and weaknesses of the players at his disposal. He has also said that he wants to grasp this opportunity and give us all something to cheer. So I expect an attacking formation and I expect to see players picked with an eye to next season.

This has been a great 24 hours and the gloom from Monday at Hillsborough has been lifted. I can't wait for Saturday and the exciting times ahead. Paul - 100% support for you and let's see what happens next!

Why was Frampton substituted last Monday?

Come on then guys - there have been loads of names mentioned (including about 437 by London Red) but lets list out the names get a full list of who we would like to see as manager...BUT
WITHOUT having a go at each others choices and then have a poll..?
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My starter for 10:
Richard Money
Positives - knows this level of football, has high standards, an excellent win % and seemingly well respected in the lower leagues and the biggest one - will know who from Non-league is worth a punt on at league two level - buy cheap sell higher
Negatives - Doesn't have strong links with Championship clubs for loan deals not a well known entity for a section of Town fans
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Paul Bodin
Positives - Has led a youth team to successive titles, has passion for town, very strong town connections and despite not being proven at league level..he is undoubtedly a good coach and very strong tactician - everyone has to satrt somewhere - no experience does not mean incapable
Negatives - no league management experience..........
.limited connections? - Can't think of too many others.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
My starter for 10: Richard Money Positives - knows this level of football, has high standards, an excellent win % and seemingly well respected in the lower leagues and the biggest one - will know who from Non-league is worth a punt on at league two level - buy cheap sell higher Negatives - Doesn't have strong links with Championship clubs for loan deals not a well known entity for a section of Town fans ....... Paul Bodin Positives - Has led a youth team to successive titles, has passion for town, very strong town connections and despite not being proven at league level..he is undoubtedly a good coach and very strong tactician - everyone has to satrt somewhere - no experience does not mean incapable Negatives - no league management experience.......... .limited connections? - Can't think of too many others.

My Choice too......Dicky Dosh for me.......

Louis

SAPFanSTFC wrote:
Come on then guys - there have been loads of names mentioned (including about 437 by London Red) but lets list out the names get a full list of who we would like to see as manager...BUT
WITHOUT having a go at each others choices and then have a poll..?
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Ling manager, Nijholt assistant would be my choice.

I hope that for his sake Paul Bodin can do well from the Oldham and Tranmere games.

Two wins and people will be demanding he get the job!

I agree that Richard Money is probably the most likely to take over, but I hope that whoever is appointed is our Mr. Right.

wurzel85 wrote:

Tosh Man wrote:
No thanks. Too much sentiment here. The problem is that we'll probably win these games without any pressure on and bodin wil be seen as god. he's a loyal subject but let's be honest NONE of his youth team have every made it at stfc

Well maybe now the youth team coach/reserve team manager has stepped up to the plate as our manager, maybe our youth players will get a proper chance. its now or never for the likes of Billy Bodin, Nathan Thompson, and Will Evans to take the opportunity. I also think Abdul said is a very handy young player, and he must be part of the first team squad next season at least....

Thompson, bodin etc couldn't get in the squad under the supervision of 2 experienced managers but you lot all think they're wonder kids. It's pathetic you all need to wake up. Div 2 would end there career before it starts. Please stop with all this rubbish before I start thinking none of you have a clue what you're in about.

LeGod wrote:
All you pro Bodin guys is unreal-yeah he is loyal to the club and has done well with the youth team but that is totally different from managing at a senior level. Dont get carried away if we win a game on saturday we have nothing to lose were down and the players will be relaxed and Oldham will just want the game over from the 1st minute so dont you lot go crazy if we win because next season is over 46 games not two and i seriously hope the board get in the right guy early. We need a manager with good contact and know how to move us forward and promoted at the firsr attempt. When you look at clubs that are going to be left in L1 there are some worse teams than us and we should have never got in this position. Next season will be hard as we will be seen as one of the big clubs and everyone will raise their game against us so its important we get the right manager and players to see us through. and that is not Bodin.

I think you'll find that all managers had to start somewhere, at least Paul B has served an apprenticeship and done well there. It's like all walks of life, sometimes you need some new blood; experience is not everything (Macari, Ardiles, Hoddle - remember them, none had any management experience when they started at swindon) - I'm made up for Zippy and hope he gets a proper chance.

Sky Sports report that Paul Trollope is most likely to be our new Manager.

Tosh Man wrote:

wurzel85 wrote:

Tosh Man wrote: No thanks. Too much sentiment here. The problem is that we'll probably win these games without any pressure on and bodin wil be seen as god. he's a loyal subject but let's be honest NONE of his youth team have every made it at stfc

Well maybe now the youth team coach/reserve team manager has stepped up to the plate as our manager, maybe our youth players will get a proper chance. its now or never for the likes of Billy Bodin, Nathan Thompson, and Will Evans to take the opportunity. I also think Abdul said is a very handy young player, and he must be part of the first team squad next season at least....

Thompson, bodin etc couldn't get in the squad under the supervision of 2 experienced managers but you lot all think they're wonder kids. It's pathetic you all need to wake up. Div 2 would end there career before it starts. Please stop with all this rubbish before I start thinking none of you have a clue what you're in about.

My way of looking at it is that the next two games are free from serious pressure. The youngsters may not be here next season for the reasons that you give. I would rather see them given a chance. I already know what the alternatives can do. (or can't) Agree we need an experienced manager.

joey butler wrote:
Sky Sports report that Paul Trollope is most likely to be our new Manager.

Bookies have stopped taking bets on Richard Money - or so I was told... Bookies v Sky Sports - who is your money on?
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The other question is do we try to appoint the new manager before the last game at Tranmere....just worry we would be rushing things...but we may also be causing issues around decisions to retain players or to offer new contracts....not many would sign without knowing who they're playing for
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or do we target appointing someone before mid to late-May thus giving a decen amount of time to find the right guy for the job?
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Both have Pros and Cons - I'm hoping they already know who they want.

joey butler wrote:
Sky Sports report that Paul Trollope is most likely to be our new Manager.

better not be, what kind of lift is that supposed to be?, theres only one fan (old stager) on here who seems to think he would be good. I will lose faith all together at this rate.
On another forum someone has said Glenn Hoddle has definately been offered the post, but might not be likely to accept it.

SAPFanSTFC wrote:

joey butler wrote:
Sky Sports report that Paul Trollope is most likely to be our new Manager.

Bookies have stopped taking bets on Richard Money - or so I was told... Bookies v Sky Sports - who is your money on?
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The other question is do we try to appoint the new manager before the last game at Tranmere....just worry we would be rushing things...but we may also be causing issues around decisions to retain players or to offer new contracts....not many would sign without knowing who they're playing for
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or do we target appointing someone before mid to late-May thus giving a decen amount of time to find the right guy for the job?
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Both have Pros and Cons - I'm hoping they already know who they want.

paste this thread Regarding Luton fans opinions on Money. It sounds like he could be almost as bad as hart.

http://www.footballf
orums.net/forums/sho
wthread.php/273989-R
e-Luton-fans-opinion
s-on-Money

Interesting...but I guess we need to temper it with the fact that there's only a few posts and two of them are keen to point out that others and Walsall will have a different opinion.....being honest our board gets busier when people want to vent their frustrations so somtimes these things do tend to promote the negatives.
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I love the coment where someone says he plays a 4-4-2 or a 4-4-3(!?) blimey he must be good if he can get away with that and no wonder his win % over two years was 54% at Luton (43% at Walsall)......hate the comment on all players back at corners but most teams do it these days - something I simply don't understand.
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I cant belive people keep going on about paul trollop. Must be his family coming on here. Just look where rovers are now its all down to him .
ROBERTO DI MATTIEO for me.

EastleazeRed wrote:
I cant belive people keep going on about paul trollop. Must be his family coming on here. Just look where rovers are now its all down to him .
ROBERTO DI MATTIEO for me.

Eastleaze Red,

I posted the Sky Sports news about Paul Trollope as I thought it may be helpful and I am not related to him!

I would not have any problem with Paul Trollope as Manager, but much prefer that we go after Colin Calderwood, which I have been suggesting on here for the last 6 weeks.

Only joking buddy, I didn’t think you were related. Just had a look at Trollope’s stats though and not good reading
P 284 W 106 D 71 L 107 % WON 37.23
Won a promotion playoff, and a few manager of the month awards, and that’s it
Hardly inspiring Not a lot better than Danny willson . To risky IMO.

go for a young new manager - recent retired player given first chance - like when Ardiles, Macari, Hoddle etc.
someone who has had experience of new ideas, someone with a passion for the game.
You want a mix of Ferguson, Daglish, Redknapp, Wenger,stuart pearce and mourinhio rolled into one.
Know anyone?

Tosh how do you know they are no good?
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Thompson, Evans and Kennedy have all been brilliant in their few appearances they have made.
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The fact despite this they were dumped for DW favourites is what annoyed a lot of people
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Kennedy kept Puncheon the leagues best right winger quite in TWO games and help keep TWO clean sheets against Saints - one after Sheehan bottled it - as documented by Prutton
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His reward - never to play again why waste of space Sheehan swans around all season
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Evans deputise for Douglas at St Mary's and puts in a commanding display to help us win our first game of the season and keep our first clean sheet
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Thompson - scouted by both Chelsea nd Arsenal - put in a great attacking fullback display against Torquay and was unlucky not to score on his debut
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He got praised by all - his reward to see Cuthbert shoved out to RB instead of playing him there
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These kids have something about them they just need a manager brave enough to try them - but I guess you never win anything with kids do you!
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For the record I would only start Kennedy next season but have the others as proper understudies - but actually use them as active subs or starters when needed.

EastleazeRed wrote:
Only joking buddy, I didn’t think you were related. Just had a look at Trollope’s stats though and not good reading
P 284 W 106 D 71 L 107 % WON 37.23
Won a promotion playoff, and a few manager of the month awards, and that’s it
Hardly inspiring Not a lot better than Danny willson . To risky IMO.

So how about Colin Calderwood as Manager?

P317 W139 D87 L91 Winning 43.85%

Richard Money has many of the "attributes" of Paul Hart. Hold on to what you have, favourite players who are always in the team when supporters can't see why and the same level of rapport with the fans. (from a Luton season ticket holder) Not the football that I want to watch. Paul Buckle would be my choice because he likes to play attacking football, knows the league inside out and has considerably more potential in a set up like ours. Torquay might just be out of things after tomorrow.

I would love colin Calderwood as manager. But would he leave Hibs ? I think he was Fittons original choice but chose to stay at forrest even though he knew his days were numbered. Makes me wonder if he would come.

hughcurran wrote:

Since 1950 wrote:
We are Zippy's Red&White Army!

Dont leave out bungle & george! how's it going in Dweeb land today?

hey its the yellow coward again who has never watched a poxford game in his life.
Also during the week you only ever post on here after school hours..
by the way just to let you know you are at home to luton on saturday
are you going?
nah course not you will be posting on here
little yellow coward!!!!!

Paul Trollope would be C*AP!! I would not be happy with his appointment!! I think the media are just speculating and have decided that Trollope is about our level and the best we can expect! If he's the best we can expect then we really are sh*t!

All sing,
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PAUL BODIN'S RED ARMY

Eastleaze I thought it was Forest who wouldn't let us speak to him.
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Which is ironic as they would have received compensation rather than pay it only a few weeks later.

"X would be crap", "Y would be great". Makes me chuckle. Whoever signs on the dotted line will get my full support from day 1. I'll save my lavish praise or criticism until he's had three months in the job with a team of his own making.

Lexisalegend wrote:
Paul Trollope would be C*AP!! I would not be happy with his appointment!! I think the media are just speculating and have decided that Trollope is about our level and the best we can expect! If he's the best we can expect then we really are sh*t!

And your positive contribution to the debate is?????????????

We need to sing cheer and do what ever, more than ever this saturday.
Hopefully the team will feel the shackles are off and will play in a positive mood with some tidy tactics.
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All sing,
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PAUL BODIN'S RED ARMY

beerdiddit wrote:
go for a young new manager - recent retired player given first chance - like when Ardiles, Macari, Hoddle etc.
someone who has had experience of new ideas, someone with a passion for the game.
You want a mix of Ferguson, Daglish, Redknapp, Wenger,stuart pearce and mourinhio rolled into one.
Know anyone?

Yep Pep Guardiola,Does he fit your Bill?Seriously,TISDA
LE would be a good shout!!!!

THIS IS 2 ALL STFC FANS....
PLEASE Give Paul Bodin A chance

He has my solid backing, and I hope in two games he can prove some sort of point. I'd like to see the likes of Thompson and Bodin Jnr playing, because we have to start them somewhere, and although its only two games, but , they need to find their level and their weakness now so they can work on it over the summer.
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All sing,
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PAUL BODIN'S RED ARMY

"Bodin, Bodin, Bodin"

Rawhide!!! (security word 'role-hide'!)

Come on Paul show us your class. Why not one from the Boot Room?

Paul Bodin really is a true Swindon Town Man...lets all give him a chance...his energy will get things going..unlike the last 3 planks we have had as so-say managers!!!
Feels better already now the dead wood has been removed!!
COYR!!

As far as I'm concerned, Paul Trollope's record is not the best. The stats speak for themselves. Whether I am happy with his appointment or not makes no difference if he gets the job. If he is the next man in then there is nothing I can do about it. I am signed up for next season no matter what and if it is him then I will have to give him my support, and that I will do. I just feel there are better manager's out there, so I don't understand why a few posters on here are flying the flag for him. I would be perfectly happy with Richard Money, and I'm not too concerned what Luton fans were moaning about because they were always challenging in the BSP. They should know that the BSP is a very hard league to get out of, even for clubs like Luton. I don't think he would be a bad shout and he is not unrealistic.
What does hack me off is these holier than thou fans who criticise people for being unhappy at things at the club. I always support the team and I never moan at players during or at the final whistle. I am entitled to have an opinion though on performance and the way the club is being run and will voice it accordingly. We have been poorly run as far as on the field things are concerned and the players have been poor, these are facts! All these self-righteous 'I'm a better fan than you' types need to get off their high horses methinks. Some of the carp they come out with, like sheep blindly following the leader, 'how dare you moan' they say. Like we have to just put up and shut up with the situation, no wonder the powers that be take the p*ss out of the people.

Lexisalegend wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Paul Trollope's record is not the best. The stats speak for themselves. Whether I am happy with his appointment or not makes no difference if he gets the job. If he is the next man in then there is nothing I can do about it. I am signed up for next season no matter what and if it is him then I will have to give him my support, and that I will do. I just feel there are better manager's out there, so I don't understand why a few posters on here are flying the flag for him. I would be perfectly happy with Richard Money, and I'm not too concerned what Luton fans were moaning about because they were always challenging in the BSP. They should know that the BSP is a very hard league to get out of, even for clubs like Luton. I don't think he would be a bad shout and he is not unrealistic. What does hack me off is these holier than thou fans who criticise people for being unhappy at things at the club. I always support the team and I never moan at players during or at the final whistle. I am entitled to have an opinion though on performance and the way the club is being run and will voice it accordingly. We have been poorly run as far as on the field things are concerned and the players have been poor, these are facts! All these self-righteous 'I'm a better fan than you' types need to get off their high horses methinks. Some of the carp they come out with, like sheep blindly following the leader, 'how dare you moan' they say. Like we have to just put up and shut up with the situation, no wonder the powers that be take the p*ss out of the people.

Excellent post. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion. That's what this forum is for. As far as I'm concerned anyone should be able to say what they like, as long as it's not abusive. Mind you, if you never moan at players during a game, you clearly are a better fan than most! I have to admit I'm not always that restrained. Not sure whether you were on here earlier in the season, but a few of us were given a lot of stick for pointing out that the squad was weak. We thought we were being constructive; others thought we were being negative for the sake of it. As for the next manager, I also think Richard Money would have a good chance of success with us. For me, it would be a close run thing between him and Paul Tisdale. But I'm not daft enough to think that either of them is a certainty to succeed. There's a lot of talk about the board having to "get it right this time". But with so many people's "rights" being other people's "wrongs", I don't envy them in making their decision.

the wizard wrote:
He has my solid backing, and I hope in two games he can prove some sort of point. I'd like to see the likes of Thompson and Bodin Jnr playing, because we have to start them somewhere, and although its only two games, but , they need to find their level and their weakness now so they can work on it over the summer.
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All sing,
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PAUL BODIN'S RED ARMY

Just like Hart had your ''solid backing'' then Wizard, for about 4 weeks, before you demanded his sacking!

Many thanks for your extended essay last night, I think I touched a nerve!

I actually agree with you that we should give Paul Bodin a chance by the way.

told you all last week bodin will take over,as stated mate knows bodins daughter, he was told 4 weeks ago he will reign by fitton if town go down

SIng the Rainbow theme tune for Zippy tomorrow.

pog702 wrote:
SIng the Rainbow theme tune for Zippy tomorrow.

Its friday 2morrow dont get 2 excited....

Wizard - we won't be seeing Thompson as he is injured.
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Bodin wants to blood the youngsters but as they have been playing youth and reserve football he cant get the chance
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Though it sounds like Miles Storey will be on the bench - one of the hot prospects
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Will we see Pavett at last - played a few under Bodin?
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Info from the official site - sounds like he going to do what we were asking for 11 games ago - 442, get it wide, get it in the box and actually have bodies in there to finish it!

amadeus wrote:
told you all last week bodin will take over,as stated mate knows bodins daughter, he was told 4 weeks ago he will reign by fitton if town go down

Yeah but the thing is now we have to wait another 4 weeks till they find a manager who they think will do the job and who most of the fans will think has a good chance of getting us promoted back to where we started....but hey whoever it is, like every other fan, we'll support him 110%
Louis

Oi Den! wrote:

Lexisalegend wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Paul Trollope's record is not the best. The stats speak for themselves. Whether I am happy with his appointment or not makes no difference if he gets the job. If he is the next man in then there is nothing I can do about it. I am signed up for next season no matter what and if it is him then I will have to give him my support, and that I will do. I just feel there are better manager's out there, so I don't understand why a few posters on here are flying the flag for him. I would be perfectly happy with Richard Money, and I'm not too concerned what Luton fans were moaning about because they were always challenging in the BSP. They should know that the BSP is a very hard league to get out of, even for clubs like Luton. I don't think he would be a bad shout and he is not unrealistic. What does hack me off is these holier than thou fans who criticise people for being unhappy at things at the club. I always support the team and I never moan at players during or at the final whistle. I am entitled to have an opinion though on performance and the way the club is being run and will voice it accordingly. We have been poorly run as far as on the field things are concerned and the players have been poor, these are facts! All these self-righteous 'I'm a better fan than you' types need to get off their high horses methinks. Some of the carp they come out with, like sheep blindly following the leader, 'how dare you moan' they say. Like we have to just put up and shut up with the situation, no wonder the powers that be take the p*ss out of the people.

Excellent post. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion. That's what this forum is for. As far as I'm concerned anyone should be able to say what they like, as long as it's not abusive. Mind you, if you never moan at players during a game, you clearly are a better fan than most! I have to admit I'm not always that restrained. Not sure whether you were on here earlier in the season, but a few of us were given a lot of stick for pointing out that the squad was weak. We thought we were being constructive; others thought we were being negative for the sake of it. As for the next manager, I also think Richard Money would have a good chance of success with us. For me, it would be a close run thing between him and Paul Tisdale. But I'm not daft enough to think that either of them is a certainty to succeed. There's a lot of talk about the board having to "get it right this time". But with so many people's "rights" being other people's "wrongs", I don't envy them in making their decision.

Lexisalegend and Oi Den, I like your posts but to me they seem a bit 'holier than thou' and a tad 'told you so'. Yes, you were indeed right that the squad was thin from the start and that we stuck with Wilson for too long. Bully for you.

I admit, I argued the opposite, as did Fitton. He has fallen on his sword and, likewise, I am happy to concede I was wrong. Indeed, Oi Den, I give you great credit for measured and consistent posts.

But I will say this. I do not regret the stance I took for the following reasons. When this Club was really rubbish (ie in previous years of incompetence and corruption), I was more than happy to criticize vehemently. And I did so.

So, before we all forget, Fitton came in and saved this wonderful Club of ours from extinction, and also tried to introduce some principles into football that I believe have been missing for many years. He has failed. You might say he was naive to try try but surely worth a shot and I for one applaud his attempt.

So, before we all forget, Wilson came in and saved us from relegation and then took us to the brink of the Championship. Yes, he failed and then lost the dressing room due to the fact that football is never very far away from a prima donna or two.

But despite that and some horrendous posts on this site and stick at the CG, he never lost his dignity. He is a thoroughly decent man who will always have my affection for what he did for the Town.

So, yes, there is nothing wrong with criticism. You should hear me at some games. But don't call us 'holier than thou'. It's a demeaning insult to people who just have a different opinion. I believe (like you) I can see what's going on, it's a different opinion but I'm quite happy to listen to yours. It's just that negative 'sounding off' seems to be the norm on here, although I will hasten to add that I do not put either of you (Oi Den and Lexisalegend) in that category. You are sound posters with a right to your views.

louiscassius wrote:

amadeus wrote:
told you all last week bodin will take over,as stated mate knows bodins daughter, he was told 4 weeks ago he will reign by fitton if town go down

Yeah but the thing is now we have to wait another 4 weeks till they find a manager who they think will do the job and who most of the fans will think has a good chance of getting us promoted back to where we started....but hey whoever it is, like every other fan, we'll support him 110%
Louis

Louis,

You are absolutely right. We all have to support the new Manager, whoever the Board decide to appoint, there are already ridiculously negative comments on here about some candidates such as Paul Trollope.

I would really like to see Colin Calderwood as our Manager, but will support whoever is appointed, for the good of the Club.

The alternative is a continual free-fall into the Blue Square and believe me, that has happened to better teams than us.

Give Paul Bodin a chance and see how the players react on Saturday. As for next season, I wonder how many of the current squad have got relegation release clauses in their contracts?

So as long as Zippy doesn't Bungle he should do alright. But if a new manager comes in, my money would be on Wally Downes.

Do you honestly think that 2 meaningless games will tell you that Bodin is a good or bad manager?

mancrobin wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Lexisalegend wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Paul Trollope's record is not the best. The stats speak for themselves. Whether I am happy with his appointment or not makes no difference if he gets the job. If he is the next man in then there is nothing I can do about it. I am signed up for next season no matter what and if it is him then I will have to give him my support, and that I will do. I just feel there are better manager's out there, so I don't understand why a few posters on here are flying the flag for him. I would be perfectly happy with Richard Money, and I'm not too concerned what Luton fans were moaning about because they were always challenging in the BSP. They should know that the BSP is a very hard league to get out of, even for clubs like Luton. I don't think he would be a bad shout and he is not unrealistic. What does hack me off is these holier than thou fans who criticise people for being unhappy at things at the club. I always support the team and I never moan at players during or at the final whistle. I am entitled to have an opinion though on performance and the way the club is being run and will voice it accordingly. We have been poorly run as far as on the field things are concerned and the players have been poor, these are facts! All these self-righteous 'I'm a better fan than you' types need to get off their high horses methinks. Some of the carp they come out with, like sheep blindly following the leader, 'how dare you moan' they say. Like we have to just put up and shut up with the situation, no wonder the powers that be take the p*ss out of the people.

Excellent post. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion. That's what this forum is for. As far as I'm concerned anyone should be able to say what they like, as long as it's not abusive. Mind you, if you never moan at players during a game, you clearly are a better fan than most! I have to admit I'm not always that restrained. Not sure whether you were on here earlier in the season, but a few of us were given a lot of stick for pointing out that the squad was weak. We thought we were being constructive; others thought we were being negative for the sake of it. As for the next manager, I also think Richard Money would have a good chance of success with us. For me, it would be a close run thing between him and Paul Tisdale. But I'm not daft enough to think that either of them is a certainty to succeed. There's a lot of talk about the board having to "get it right this time". But with so many people's "rights" being other people's "wrongs", I don't envy them in making their decision.

Lexisalegend and Oi Den, I like your posts but to me they seem a bit 'holier than thou' and a tad 'told you so'. Yes, you were indeed right that the squad was thin from the start and that we stuck with Wilson for too long. Bully for you.

I admit, I argued the opposite, as did Fitton. He has fallen on his sword and, likewise, I am happy to concede I was wrong. Indeed, Oi Den, I give you great credit for measured and consistent posts.

But I will say this. I do not regret the stance I took for the following reasons. When this Club was really rubbish (ie in previous years of incompetence and corruption), I was more than happy to criticize vehemently. And I did so.

So, before we all forget, Fitton came in and saved this wonderful Club of ours from extinction, and also tried to introduce some principles into football that I believe have been missing for many years. He has failed. You might say he was naive to try try but surely worth a shot and I for one applaud his attempt.

So, before we all forget, Wilson came in and saved us from relegation and then took us to the brink of the Championship. Yes, he failed and then lost the dressing room due to the fact that football is never very far away from a prima donna or two.

But despite that and some horrendous posts on this site and stick at the CG, he never lost his dignity. He is a thoroughly decent man who will always have my affection for what he did for the Town.

So, yes, there is nothing wrong with criticism. You should hear me at some games. But don't call us 'holier than thou'. It's a demeaning insult to people who just have a different opinion. I believe (like you) I can see what's going on, it's a different opinion but I'm quite happy to listen to yours. It's just that negative 'sounding off' seems to be the norm on here, although I will hasten to add that I do not put either of you (Oi Den and Lexisalegend) in that category. You are sound posters with a right to your views.

Mancrobin,

You have just said in your above post, in far better words than I could, exactly what I have been thinking about Danny Wilson for months.

You said;

''So, before we all forget, Wilson came in and saved us from relegation and then took us to the brink of the Championship. Yes, he failed and then lost the dressing room due to the fact that football is never very far away from a prima donna or two.

But despite that and some horrendous posts on this site and stick at the CG, he never lost his dignity. He is a thoroughly decent man who will always have my affection for what he did for the Town.''

And I agree with you 100%!!!!!

zznewyork wrote:
Do you honestly think that 2 meaningless games will tell you that Bodin is a good or bad manager?

it wont, some people are deluded on here thinking bodins about to get the job fulltime as a main man. Although its possible he could have a part to play as an assistant or coach to the first team depending on who they go for. Please let it be Hoddle!

Redmooney - you state that "some people are deluded on here thinking that Bodin's about to get the job fulltime as the mainman"....
....
and then you state - "Please let it be Hoddle"!?....that was a tongue in cheek joke wasn't it? :-)

mancrobin wrote:

Oi Den! wrote:

Lexisalegend wrote: As far as I'm concerned, Paul Trollope's record is not the best. The stats speak for themselves. Whether I am happy with his appointment or not makes no difference if he gets the job. If he is the next man in then there is nothing I can do about it. I am signed up for next season no matter what and if it is him then I will have to give him my support, and that I will do. I just feel there are better manager's out there, so I don't understand why a few posters on here are flying the flag for him. I would be perfectly happy with Richard Money, and I'm not too concerned what Luton fans were moaning about because they were always challenging in the BSP. They should know that the BSP is a very hard league to get out of, even for clubs like Luton. I don't think he would be a bad shout and he is not unrealistic. What does hack me off is these holier than thou fans who criticise people for being unhappy at things at the club. I always support the team and I never moan at players during or at the final whistle. I am entitled to have an opinion though on performance and the way the club is being run and will voice it accordingly. We have been poorly run as far as on the field things are concerned and the players have been poor, these are facts! All these self-righteous 'I'm a better fan than you' types need to get off their high horses methinks. Some of the carp they come out with, like sheep blindly following the leader, 'how dare you moan' they say. Like we have to just put up and shut up with the situation, no wonder the powers that be take the p*ss out of the people.

Excellent post. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion. That's what this forum is for. As far as I'm concerned anyone should be able to say what they like, as long as it's not abusive. Mind you, if you never moan at players during a game, you clearly are a better fan than most! I have to admit I'm not always that restrained. Not sure whether you were on here earlier in the season, but a few of us were given a lot of stick for pointing out that the squad was weak. We thought we were being constructive; others thought we were being negative for the sake of it. As for the next manager, I also think Richard Money would have a good chance of success with us. For me, it would be a close run thing between him and Paul Tisdale. But I'm not daft enough to think that either of them is a certainty to succeed. There's a lot of talk about the board having to "get it right this time". But with so many people's "rights" being other people's "wrongs", I don't envy them in making their decision.

Lexisalegend and Oi Den, I like your posts but to me they seem a bit 'holier than thou' and a tad 'told you so'. Yes, you were indeed right that the squad was thin from the start and that we stuck with Wilson for too long. Bully for you. I admit, I argued the opposite, as did Fitton. He has fallen on his sword and, likewise, I am happy to concede I was wrong. Indeed, Oi Den, I give you great credit for measured and consistent posts. But I will say this. I do not regret the stance I took for the following reasons. When this Club was really rubbish (ie in previous years of incompetence and corruption), I was more than happy to criticize vehemently. And I did so. So, before we all forget, Fitton came in and saved this wonderful Club of ours from extinction, and also tried to introduce some principles into football that I believe have been missing for many years. He has failed. You might say he was naive to try try but surely worth a shot and I for one applaud his attempt. So, before we all forget, Wilson came in and saved us from relegation and then took us to the brink of the Championship. Yes, he failed and then lost the dressing room due to the fact that football is never very far away from a prima donna or two. But despite that and some horrendous posts on this site and stick at the CG, he never lost his dignity. He is a thoroughly decent man who will always have my affection for what he did for the Town. So, yes, there is nothing wrong with criticism. You should hear me at some games. But don't call us 'holier than thou'. It's a demeaning insult to people who just have a different opinion. I believe (like you) I can see what's going on, it's a different opinion but I'm quite happy to listen to yours. It's just that negative 'sounding off' seems to be the norm on here, although I will hasten to add that I do not put either of you (Oi Den and Lexisalegend) in that category. You are sound posters with a right to your views.

Good post mancrobin. You raise a number of interesting points. But I think I have to put some counter-arguments. Firstly, as regards "I told you so", I take no pleasure whatsoever from the fact that we have had a dire season. The point I was trying to make is that critical comment can be constructive and should not necessarily be seen as negativity for the sake of it. On some of your other points: Danny Wilson - I think his tenure can be viwed in three phases. In his first (part) season, he did not save us from relegation. Of the three managers we had in that season, he took us closer to relegation than the other two. In fact Malpas had taken 7 points from the three games immediately before he was sacked, so it could be argued that he was starting to turn things round in the League. (I am not arguing that Malpas would have gone on to be a good manager but I think this position contrasts starkly with the failing outfit that Hart inherited.) In this phase, Wilson produced the masterstroke of his time with us - the signing of Gordon Greer. This was arguably the move that launched the exciting second phase, the construction of one of the finest Swindon Town teams I have seen. Ironically enough I think it is the fact that he ultimately failed with such a good team - the third phase - that proved him to be not the good manager that many believed. However, I completely agree that he is a very decent and likeable man. I have said so on here before now. Andrew Fitton - I have lost count of the number of times I've said on here that I think he's the best Chairman the club has had since I first started supporting the Town. I also believe that he has been unfortunate in being the front man taking all the stick for the collective errors of the board as a whole. By the way, I never wish to belittle optimism, even if I usually prefer to temper it with caution. I agree with your sentiments re "holier than thou". I am guessing that your use of the same phrase in your post was ironic! But if my posts have come across that way, I apologise.