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FULL TIME: Town 1 Charlton 1
3:51pm Saturday 6th February 2010
ANOTHER late goal saw Swindon surrender three points at the death against Charlton at the County Ground this afternoon.
After Kevin Amankwaah had steered home from a corner for his third goal of the season in the 65th minute, the Robins looked set to secure their sixth consecutive home win.
But those hopes were dashed in the 93rd minute when Nicky Bailey fired home beneath David Lucas to restore parity and leave a wear-looking Town frustrated once again.
In a cagey affair, the hosts dominated the majority of the first half, and hit the crossbar via Gordon Greer's header. But Charlton utilised their substitutes to good effect as the game dragged on, and were worthy of a point.
Here are the key moments from today's match:
12 minutes: Simon Ferry robs Nicky Bailey of possession 30 yards from goal and threads through Jonathan Douglas, but the midfielder's effort is well saved by Rob Elliot in the visiting goal.
From the ensuing corner Gordon Greer's flicked header crashes against the crossbar with Elliot beaten, and Scott Cuthbert nods the follow-up over the top of the goal and into the Stratton Bank.
17 mins: Absolute mayhem in the Charlton area as Amankwaah's cross eventually falls to Billy Paynter who can only stab his shot at Elliot.
The ball breaks for Ferry, but his tame effort is accidentally blocked by Paynter on the line with Elliot stranded.
21 mins: Town are all over their guests here, winning every 50-50 challenge and finding space right across the pitch.
Danny Ward sees his cross blcked by Frazer Richardson and his appeals for handball are waved away by referee Hall.
32 mins: Uncharacteristic miss from Charlie Austin. The striker latches onto a loose ball 12 yards out but cannot wrap his foot around it well enough to steer it goalwards and the 20-year-old's strike skids wide of Charlton's left hand post.
38 mins: Finally Charlton show their class and are within a hair's breadth of taking the lead after Jonjo Shelvery hammers his shot against the bar after Akpo Sodje's pull back.
39 mins: Kyel Reid's long range effort is comfortably dealt with by Lucas.
47 mins: Greer and Therry Racon's heads collide midway inside the Town half.
Racon requires stitches to a head wound and leaves the field of play.
Greer re-emerges three minutes later modelling the latest look from the Terry Butcher range.
65 mins: GOAL (Amankwaah, 1-0) McGovern and Greer produce a free kick right off the training ground as the midfielder's neat short corner is flicked on by the Robins' skipper at the near post and Kevin Amankwaah has the space to guide in his third of the season from eight yards out.
68 mins: Forget the sink, Charlton are throwing the entire proverbial kitchen at Town in search of an equaliser.
Addicks boss Phil Parkinson sends on his final sub, striker Deon Burton, in place of left-back Grant Basey. Nicky Bailey's long rage drive is simple for Lucas to parry and collect.
85 mins: There are a lot of tired Swindon legs out there now, and the visitors are looking more and more threatening.
Jean-Francois almost plays his side into trouble, hesitating on the edge of the area and allowing Sodje a sight of goal.
But Greer slides in before the big centre forward has a chance to pull the trigger.
90 (+3) mins: GOAL (Bailey, 1-1) It's happened again. Town give Nicky Bailey space in the area and the visiting captain latches onto Burton's pass to fire beneath Lucas and level affairs.
Swindon Town: (4-4-2) David Lucas, Kevin Amankwaah, Scott Cuthbert, Gordon Greer, Lecsinel Jean-Francois; Jon-Paul McGovern, Jonathan Douglas, Simon Ferry, Danny Ward; Charlie Austin, Billy Paynter
Charlton Athletic:: (4-4-1-1) Rob Elliot, Frazer Richardson, Sam Sodje, Christian Dailly, Grant Basey; Scott Wagstaff, Nicky Bailey, Therry Racon, Kyel Reid; Jonjo Shelvey; Akpo Sodje
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TenerifeRed, says...
4:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10
lunnyboy, swindon says...
5:04pm Sat 6 Feb 10
vikingred, oslo says...
5:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Redhouse Red, Swindon says...
5:09pm Sat 6 Feb 10
swindon30, Marlborough says...
5:20pm Sat 6 Feb 10
I don't think a top 2 finish is totaly out of the question with games I'm hand, but playoff spot is much more likely.
It was bad defending at the end and you could question tatics again but what really frustrates me even more than the draw is the **** booing at the end
grow up and go support somone else if u want that to boo at what was genualy a good performance.
Yes it's bloody annoying, and I'm as oissed off just as much as anyone, and I'm a big moaner about these loss of points, but booing is just hidious.
jam1, swindon says...
5:20pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Wonder Strike, Swindon says...
5:30pm Sat 6 Feb 10
vikingred, oslo says...
5:31pm Sat 6 Feb 10
woolster0, swindon says...
5:40pm Sat 6 Feb 10
mattytown, Somerset says...
5:47pm Sat 6 Feb 10
swindonmatt, leominster says...
5:48pm Sat 6 Feb 10
grim reapers gone, swindon says...
5:50pm Sat 6 Feb 10
gutted---gutted---gu
tted
why---why---why---wh
y
Custodian, Swindon says...
5:58pm Sat 6 Feb 10
mikek, Swindon says...
5:59pm Sat 6 Feb 10
grim reapers gone, swindon says...
6:30pm Sat 6 Feb 10
jimx or wot
stroudred1959, stroud says...
6:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10
lambo, Swindon says...
6:46pm Sat 6 Feb 10
ferry m.o.m. did a speech post game and said that after the match they talked about the number of points lost with last minute goals. dw, pointed out that this season it has happened 7 times and cost us 14 points..........
still - we played well in parts, and are still unbeaten so there is plenty of positive to be had. We'll get our chances to close the gap in the next few games.
Would like to see some more atmosphere out there, the leeds match was sensational, today felt flat for a long time.
macklin looks out of his depth at the moment, and i thought would benefit from a game when we are 3-0 up and no pressure. he looked like a boy amongst men today. tuesday expect to see pericard back and a comfortable win.
stroudred1959, stroud says...
6:53pm Sat 6 Feb 10
lambo wrote:We should see what we are made of Tuesday night the old town would have played cr*p 7lost don't think this set of lads will though.For what its worth I think we will win 2-0 but as I have to work Tuesday won't be able to go,do it reds
was enjoying some hospitality today at the match. ferry m.o.m. did a speech post game and said that after the match they talked about the number of points lost with last minute goals. dw, pointed out that this season it has happened 7 times and cost us 14 points.......... still - we played well in parts, and are still unbeaten so there is plenty of positive to be had. We'll get our chances to close the gap in the next few games. Would like to see some more atmosphere out there, the leeds match was sensational, today felt flat for a long time. macklin looks out of his depth at the moment, and i thought would benefit from a game when we are 3-0 up and no pressure. he looked like a boy amongst men today. tuesday expect to see pericard back and a comfortable win.
bradley red 1, swindon says...
6:54pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bradley red 1, swindon says...
6:57pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Bondy54, Swindon says...
7:30pm Sat 6 Feb 10
P*ssed Off, Calne says...
7:30pm Sat 6 Feb 10
Davidsyrett, Swindon says...
7:34pm Sat 6 Feb 10
swindontown, swindon says...
7:44pm Sat 6 Feb 10
I personally thought the booing at the end was for the ref??? could be wrong tho...
old town robin, old town swindon says...
7:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
bradley red 1 wrote:good account of the game today, in fact I agree with everybodies comments today. Greer and Cuthbert were immense, Charlie tried hard but was subjected to some uncompromising attention from their defenders and was given no protection from a poor ref who seemed to take no notice of their cheating tatics. Billy was well below his norm and I would go as far to say his failure to try to win the ball in their half lead to them getting the ball forward to score their goal. Jon Douglas looked knackered in the last 20 minutes. None of this is critical of the guys, under the circumstances the performance was quite good but unfortunately we continue to drop points in the last 5 minutes and it has to be asked Why! Charlton had 5 minutes before half time and again in injury time, for the rest of the time all the football came form us.it's plain to see the squad is very tired and too small to rotate.We don't have the quality in depth to rest the tired legs and unless Danny brings in 3 loanees and Pericard, Sheenon and O'brien can return soon, we could be facing some very diificult games in the next few weeks.
very frustrating! why he brought macklin on i will never know,charlie and billy were not in the game much today for me easton should have come on and filled the midfield,lack of quality in the squad and new loans needed asap,if this team could learn to see games out we would be top two no doubt! charlton were poor and deserved nothing,points lost and lets hope we get back to winning ways on tuesday.
therock4u, Swindon says...
8:19pm Sat 6 Feb 10
therock4u, Swindon says...
8:23pm Sat 6 Feb 10
old town robin, old town swindon says...
8:28pm Sat 6 Feb 10
therock4u wrote:Charlton cheats throwing themselves on the ground even when they were no where near swindon players. Referee was very weakand just let them get away with it.
Forgot to mention, where did 5+ mins extra come from?? Sorry had to miss the game today.
Orrible Cnut, Kabul says...
8:55pm Sat 6 Feb 10
therock4u wrote:A clash of heads bewtween Greer and there striker plus the goalkeeper went down for a couple of mins with a fake hand injury , so Iwas not surprised to see 5 mins go up. What was annoying was the way we turned into a pub team for the last 10 instead of just carrying on playing as we had done for the previous 80
Forgot to mention, where did 5+ mins extra come from?? Sorry had to miss the game today.
Bassett Robin, Wootton Bassett says...
9:49pm Sat 6 Feb 10
P*ssed Off wrote:I'd have to dissagree that Macklin is the worst player in the squad because that honour would have to go to Leschinel, who is without doubt abysmal & amongst the worst defenders i've ever seen in the proffesional game.
If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!
The lack of quality on the bench is so evident with the likes of Macklin & Marshall & the players who are playing very game are now suffering from fatique.
We need 3 players in as loan signings asap.
The tactics of Charlton were dreadful & the performance of the referee was atrocious.
Onwards & upwards now to 3 points on Tuesday night for the Reds.
stroudred1959, stroud says...
10:01pm Sat 6 Feb 10
avo, swindon says...
10:07pm Sat 6 Feb 10
as to the game, charlton came and did a job on us and hit us with the sucker punch right at the death, they are probably jubilant tonight and rightly so, because how the hell they manged to steal a point from us, god only knows?
Nothing to fear in this league though, and we continue to march on towards promotion, in wilson we trust, this club is only going in one direction, that is obvious to all that watch the team week in week out.
woolster0, swindon says...
10:26pm Sat 6 Feb 10
avo wrote:lol, explain
oh and to be totally honest, if that f-ing dog keeps barking much longer, i am going to go round there and rip its f-ing head off, and shove it down its owners throat.
umpcah, Chippenham says...
10:38pm Sat 6 Feb 10
woolster0 wrote:Leave my little Fido alone !
avo wrote: oh and to be totally honest, if that f-ing dog keeps barking much longer, i am going to go round there and rip its f-ing head off, and shove it down its owners throat.lol, explain
London Red, says...
11:13pm Sat 6 Feb 10
If the team play well they get a cheered and clapped off
So if they don't play well, or in the case of today fans were frustrated and angry - what else can you do?
The players will know it was a frustration boo - which was picked up by the long debrief - the talk about 14 lost points via late goals etc.
As for the game - Charlton were like a team fighting relegation looking for a "bonus" point at a top team - came here simply to to disrupt us and stop us playing - and too be fair to them it worked because after 30 mins we simply stopped playing.
The criticism of subs and Macklin is over the top as well.
Sub - it was designed to change things about as we needed it as Charlton had come back into it - the idea was to get pace in the side and have us run with the ball into the channels and eat up time. Not just keep hoofing it back to them to start again - whioch is what happened.
Macklin - OK didn't work the way it should but lets not forget he is only 17 - he is a kid so slating him will not do him any good.
What we really needed was O'Brien as he is more experienced and probably would have done what Wilson was trying - obviously not fit.
We need our loanees DW wants as we are too short of players. But lets remember we were cack last year so to have 13/14 good players is a great turn around - and we must accept it will take time to get that up to the 20 odd we need.
With less deadwood needed to go in the summer DW knows adding 4 or 5 like we did this year will just boost us to the desired number - plus the fact we have been so good this year means more quality players will want to sign for us too.
Anyway - heres to 3 points on Tuesday as Aljofree is in defense so they will poor.
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
11:34pm Sat 6 Feb 10
I'm in full agreement with Dave Syrett here, booing is for a team who don't try and play badly!!
In the past it has been, why did we defend so much..moan moan moan we should have gone for the killer goal....moan moan moan - Well today he put a bit of pace on to keep them busy at the back and we got caught!
Would you rather that we had scored 7 times in the last 5 minutes to draw, or they score 7 times in the last minute to claw a draw of us!? Last year we would be losing all of these in the last 5 mins!!
Come on negative Town fans, we are in 6th SIXTH with GAMES IN HAND!!!
Get behind the team and slap the next person to boo the team off after a performance like today's!!
Come on You Reds...and yes I was gutted again today and last week when I sat ion the train home from Southend and at all the other late draws....BUT!!...6th and Play-Offs beckon!!
stroudred1959, stroud says...
11:36pm Sat 6 Feb 10
London Red wrote:Good post sums up the afternoon perfectly,although I didnt think we deserved to be booed off.Fraustrating ,but we weren't that bad.
I don't get the attitude you can not boo at the end of the game. Why not? If the team play well they get a cheered and clapped off So if they don't play well, or in the case of today fans were frustrated and angry - what else can you do? The players will know it was a frustration boo - which was picked up by the long debrief - the talk about 14 lost points via late goals etc. As for the game - Charlton were like a team fighting relegation looking for a "bonus" point at a top team - came here simply to to disrupt us and stop us playing - and too be fair to them it worked because after 30 mins we simply stopped playing. The criticism of subs and Macklin is over the top as well. Sub - it was designed to change things about as we needed it as Charlton had come back into it - the idea was to get pace in the side and have us run with the ball into the channels and eat up time. Not just keep hoofing it back to them to start again - whioch is what happened. Macklin - OK didn't work the way it should but lets not forget he is only 17 - he is a kid so slating him will not do him any good. What we really needed was O'Brien as he is more experienced and probably would have done what Wilson was trying - obviously not fit. We need our loanees DW wants as we are too short of players. But lets remember we were cack last year so to have 13/14 good players is a great turn around - and we must accept it will take time to get that up to the 20 odd we need. With less deadwood needed to go in the summer DW knows adding 4 or 5 like we did this year will just boost us to the desired number - plus the fact we have been so good this year means more quality players will want to sign for us too. Anyway - heres to 3 points on Tuesday as Aljofree is in defense so they will poor.
yeti, swindon says...
11:51pm Sat 6 Feb 10
P*ssed Off wrote:well done.slate a young lad trying to make his mark in the game.
If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!
tw@
he's a kid fresh out of the youth team.give him a break you cretin
TownEnd D.Romain, SWINDON PINEHURST says...
1:23am Sun 7 Feb 10
After we scored we were shocking
avo, swindon says...
1:57am Sun 7 Feb 10
what do you hope to achieve?
dont bother answering-its a losing argument.
NORRO, WOOTTON BASSETT says...
2:36am Sun 7 Feb 10
Enuf said, see you lot at The Den on the 8th May !
swindon30, Marlborough says...
8:53am Sun 7 Feb 10
SAPFanSTFC wrote:Well said. I posted early on the booing, totaly out of order. If we had played really badly on the day( which we didn't) and going a serious bad patch (which we are not) then you could sort of understand it.
Then stay away London Red, you aren't wanted....we did NOT play badly we got sucker punched at the end again.
I'm in full agreement with Dave Syrett here, booing is for a team who don't try and play badly!!
In the past it has been, why did we defend so much..moan moan moan we should have gone for the killer goal....moan moan moan - Well today he put a bit of pace on to keep them busy at the back and we got caught!
Would you rather that we had scored 7 times in the last 5 minutes to draw, or they score 7 times in the last minute to claw a draw of us!? Last year we would be losing all of these in the last 5 mins!!
Come on negative Town fans, we are in 6th SIXTH with GAMES IN HAND!!!
Get behind the team and slap the next person to boo the team off after a performance like today's!!
Come on You Reds...and yes I was gutted again today and last week when I sat ion the train home from Southend and at all the other late draws....BUT!!...6th and Play-Offs beckon!!
swindon30, Marlborough says...
8:56am Sun 7 Feb 10
yeti wrote:Yeti, am I going to get a sorry from you for your remarks about me lying about smith being given a contract?? Last weekend well before it was released in the press??
P*ssed Off wrote:well done.slate a young lad trying to make his mark in the game.
If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!
tw@
he's a kid fresh out of the youth team.give him a break you cretin
Stratton Red, Stratton says...
9:09am Sun 7 Feb 10
ciclosporindorset, says...
9:37am Sun 7 Feb 10
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
9:39am Sun 7 Feb 10
On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes?
At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-)
Below is a list of
Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded)
0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%)
10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%)
20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%)
30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%)
40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%)
50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%)
60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%)
--------------------
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70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%)
80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%)
90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%)
50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time...
....thought as to why?
M.Dobbo, liddington says...
10:10am Sun 7 Feb 10
A defeat against Oldham on Tuesday and we can forget about play-off's, as for automatic prom, no way Jose.
burley01rs, fleet says...
10:27am Sun 7 Feb 10
swindon30, Marlborough says...
10:46am Sun 7 Feb 10
burley01rs wrote:Not from where I was sat
If there was any booing I thought it was directed at the Charlton team who are poor excuses for sportsmen. And maybe booing the ref who was in the wrong on numerous occasions
STFC-Steve, Swindon says...
10:48am Sun 7 Feb 10
M.Dobbo wrote:Wow, are you for real? 'Forget about the play-offs if we lose to Oldham!? That has to be one of the most idiotic posts I've read on here.
There has to be a question mark about the coaching tactics within the club. Wilson and his henchman need to install some mental strength into the defence or they will continue to let in late goals. STFC has now got the reputation of not being able to last 90mins.(see Charlton's manager Phil Parkinson comments about our defence) Assessing players, Jean-Francois and Ward had bad games along with Austin but on the positive side Ferry was the MOM, utter class.
A defeat against Oldham on Tuesday and we can forget about play-off's, as for automatic prom, no way Jose.
Redhouse Red, Swindon says...
10:54am Sun 7 Feb 10
SAPFanSTFC wrote:I love it.
Lets take emotion out of this for a moment as I'm sure the players and all at the club are just as gutted as any of us...in fact I'm sure more so as it is their proffession and future. On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes? At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-) Below is a list of Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded) 0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%) 20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%) 40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%) 50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%) 60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%) -------------------- ------------------- 70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%) 80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%) 90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%) 50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time... ....thought as to why?
Stat-o, stat-o!!!!! (For those who remember fantasy football).
Putting the emotion back in. Steve Claridge says we are having a "fantastic season". So I'm happy!!!
Penhill54, Southampton says...
11:06am Sun 7 Feb 10
Another view, Highworth says...
11:10am Sun 7 Feb 10
If I have to criticise DW then maybe he should be making a subsitution to counteract the late collapses.
Despite his goals I still think Billy is a support player, which is why Coxy and Charlie have prospered with him. If Danny Ward was given more freedom to move in from the wings then he could pick up a lot of assists from Billy.
Maybe it's slow, but we are progressing.
Tosh Man, in a bush says...
11:47am Sun 7 Feb 10
Tosh Man, in a bush says...
11:49am Sun 7 Feb 10
SAPFanSTFC wrote:I think the attitude of a loss has changed in recent times. I think sides would rather lose 2 or 3 nil now than 1-0 so they are prepared to throw everything at getting a draw. Like you say we haven't conceeded many late losing goals.
Lets take emotion out of this for a moment as I'm sure the players and all at the club are just as gutted as any of us...in fact I'm sure more so as it is their proffession and future. On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes? At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-) Below is a list of Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded) 0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%) 20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%) 40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%) 50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%) 60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%) -------------------- ------------------- 70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%) 80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%) 90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%) 50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time... ....thought as to why?
grim reapers gone, swindon says...
12:09pm Sun 7 Feb 10
ciclosporindorset, says...
12:14pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Another view, Highworth says...
12:20pm Sun 7 Feb 10
http://news.bbc.co.u
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robins69, swindon says...
1:01pm Sun 7 Feb 10
wiki27, Swindon says...
1:22pm Sun 7 Feb 10
zippy1722, swindon says...
1:50pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Mondeaux, Witney says...
6:24pm Sun 7 Feb 10
OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland.
He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in).
To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys."
I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team.
He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces.
Am I alone in thinking this way????
the_gloves, London Town says...
6:41pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Mondeaux wrote:No, I'm with you on that. He's frustrating to watch and does make mistakes but he's got a fantastic cross on him and a solid tackle. I think his weakness' are poor concentration and more than any player i,ve ever seen is effected by cionfidence. He can be in a game for and playing really well and then he'll take his eye off the ball and get skinned or loose his man. More often than not this leads to a chance. Thats when his head drops and his game can fall apart. You'll often see Gordon or Lucas go and put an arm around him to get his confidence back. These probs are psychological and can prob be ironed out. Sheenan is my first choice left back but Lecs can do a job. I fear he is going much the way of Smith in that no matter how well he plays some fans will get on his back at the first opportunity.
I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????
TenerifeRed, says...
6:57pm Sun 7 Feb 10
SAPFanSTFC wrote:We're scoring over 85% of our goals in the first 80 minutes and then trying to defend the lead for the last 10. We're sitting back and letting the other teams come at us and the defence has tired legs and is getting out of shape/panicing. 10 minutes is a long time to try to defend a lead.
Lets take emotion out of this for a moment as I'm sure the players and all at the club are just as gutted as any of us...in fact I'm sure more so as it is their proffession and future. On more of a discussion basis, if you look at when we score and concede could it be that they are responding to when we score goals and getting desperate in the last few minutes? At least it is THEM scoring last minute goals to DRAW!? :-) Below is a list of Minutes Played range then Goals scored (% of total goals scored) then Goals conceded (% of total goals conceded) 0 - 9 4gls (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 10 - 19 6 (12.5%) v 3 (8.3%) 20 - 29 4 (8.3%) v 3 (8.3%) 30 - 39 5 (10.4%) v 6 (16.7%) 40 - 49 4 (8.3%) v 0 (0.0%) 50 - 59 7 (14.6%) v 2 (5.6%) 60 - 69 4 (8.3%) v 1 (2.8%) -------------------- ------------------- 70 - 79 8 (16.7%) v 3 (8.3%) 80 - 89 4 (8.3%) v 10 (27.8%) 90 - 99 2 (4.2%) v 5 (13.9%) 50% of the goals scored against us have come in the last 20 minutes + injury time... ....thought as to why?
The best form of defence is attack, right to the end.
Oi Den!, Swindon says...
7:00pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Mondeaux, Witney says...
7:10pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Because someone speaks French, that doesn't make them a Frog. (To which, millions of Canadians, Haitians, Vietnamese & West Africans will testify). Lots of French men also.
Lesci is Haitian, Haiti is in the Caribbean not Western Europe.
Bondy54, Swindon says...
7:13pm Sun 7 Feb 10
stroudred1959, stroud says...
7:14pm Sun 7 Feb 10
avo, swindon says...
7:17pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Mondeaux wrote:you are not alone at all.
I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????
Lesc does not get the credit he deserves.
'viva lescinel, viva lescinel, flying down the wing, here the swindon sing, viva lescinel'
I was on my own with that song yesterday but i am persisting with it anyway lol....
Bondy54, Swindon says...
7:17pm Sun 7 Feb 10
TheDukeOfBanbury, Chipping Warden says...
7:41pm Sun 7 Feb 10
avo wrote:Agree avo.
Mondeaux wrote: I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????you are not alone at all. Lesc does not get the credit he deserves. 'viva lescinel, viva lescinel, flying down the wing, here the swindon sing, viva lescinel' I was on my own with that song yesterday but i am persisting with it anyway lol....
Getting on Lec's back.
Having a go at Macklin.
Booing at the end.
We are 6th in the league and playing the best football in years. The Club is once again moving forward.
What is wrong with some of our Supporters. Get behind the lads.
.....and avo change your season ticket next season and join the South Oxfordshire Reds are welcome.
Under the flag a no boo zone.
grim reapers gone, swindon says...
8:02pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Bondy54 wrote:lesc has been great to what we had in smith,
You cannot knock Lechs for his play. He has been going through a really tough time but always gives Swindon 100%. As I said yesterday I am worried that our bench is not very strong. Yes I would have brought on Easton instead of Macklin to sure up the midfield. Luckily enough there is is not much damage & Danny has said that he will now bring in loan signings to cover all the games we have left in one of the papers. Come on Lads & Lasses lets go out there Tuesday night & raise the roof & get behind Gorden & the boys We need to win. We are the twelve man or woman.
yeah i will behind them for our much needed 3 points
Keep Fitt, down the gym says...
8:04pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Having said that, we we're the better team yesterday no doubt. That's twice we should have beat Charlton. Maybe it'll be 3rd time lucky in the play-offs?
Mondeaux, Witney says...
8:14pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Is that to the tune of:-
"Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen,
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of men.
Feared by the bad, loved by the good,
Robin Hood, Robin Hood, Robin Hood."
"He came to Sherwood Forest, with a sausage in his hand. . . . etc, etc.
umpcah, Chippenham says...
8:30pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Keep Fitt wrote:Worst record ? Would you care to get a few facts to back up that suggestion. We are all fed up by late goals against this season but if one reads the Sunday/Monday footie reports late goals are scored all over the UK and not just against Swindon. Reason ? Teams who are losing throw everything forward in the last ten minutes knowing that tired defenders are likely to make mistakes. If they get caught out by a counter blow they`re no worse off !
I reckon we must have the worst record in the football league for shipping in late goals. In fact I'd say it's likely that we've got the worst record in any league in the world..... ever!!! Having said that, we we're the better team yesterday no doubt. That's twice we should have beat Charlton. Maybe it'll be 3rd time lucky in the play-offs?
shaner,bournemouth, bournemouth says...
8:44pm Sun 7 Feb 10
swindon30 wrote:Don't be silly.Yeti abused me on here a while back when i stated a fact about Fraser Digby.I was clearly right and he didn't know the facts,and because he didn't know,he thought he was right,just like last week when he said no players have been offered new contracts.
yeti wrote:Yeti, am I going to get a sorry from you for your remarks about me lying about smith being given a contract?? Last weekend well before it was released in the press??P*ssed Off wrote: If danny needed to make a substitution, he should have brought anybody else on except Mackilin. He must rate as the worst player in the first team squad. What the hell was he doing out on the right wing in the dying seconds, along with two other players, when he was the substitute striker and nobody was in the middle. Oh on second thoughts, he is the worst player at the CG. A complete waste of space!!well done.slate a young lad trying to make his mark in the game. tw@ he's a kid fresh out of the youth team.give him a break you cretin
swindon30, Marlborough says...
9:16pm Sun 7 Feb 10
London Red, says...
9:45pm Sun 7 Feb 10
1) If you read my post I never said I was booing - yet you have a go at me for it. All I said was I have no problem with people expressing themselves - as there are only two ways you can really show it at the end - cheer or boo!
I do agree Booing a single player is wrong as that will really effect them - but the team as a whole is fine as it is an expression of emotion.
Also why do some people feel it is fine to boo sometimes - but just not on Sat?
2) I'm actually an owner of the club - so its a bit rich telling me I'm not welcome at MY OWN club!
3) I'm disgusted at the attitude of some that fans are not welcome and should stay away - with out fans there is no STFC - simple as that!
If you boo you are not welcome - is similar to people who moan about fans turning up at Big games only and saying they should stay away - we should never want people to stay away as they will help us move forward.
We should be encouraging as many as possible as we need gates of 8,000+ to get out of this league and 10,000+ if we are to stay up.
Listen to Wray and Fitton - the prices have be set to see how many will come so they can budget around that - with people like you telling people not to come back our budget will be for the likes of Casal and not Douglas!
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
11:01pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Mondeaux wrote:Totally agree Mondy, at the start of the season DW said he is still learning and will make mistakes.....but hell, he is more of a benefit than a being a hinderance. He has his bad moments but he has been solid in so many games.
I'm really cheesed-off about the number of posters having a pop at Lesci. OK, he's not as assured on the ball as Sheehan, but neither is he as bad as some make him out to be. Let's not forget that he's still just a lad, in a strange country and far from his (devastated) homeland. He hit a great ball (v. Gills) for Charlie's goal and the cross he put in for Billy's first against Leeds was inch perfect (I could've tucked that one in). To use a (dreadful) American expression, "let's cut him a little slack, guys." I'd like to see him joining the attack more often, especially as he seems to be able to hit the ball with far more venom than ANYONE else in the town team. He could be a surprise, secret weapon at set pieces. Am I alone in thinking this way????
Saturday he was up and down the line every 2 minutes, he made some great tackles but got caught up the pitch on a break in the last few minutes.....keep him back is the answer, but then DW gets nobbled for sitting back and defending!?
No win situation eh!!
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
11:25pm Sun 7 Feb 10
IYou would condone fans booing a team who have worked their socks off like yesterday?.. you should be ashamed of yourself. There are more than two ways of demonsrating your feelings, one would be to leave early....oh no!! As we were winning they were all really happy until 2 minutes into an extended injury time, another is to walk out without comment or clapping....as did many of the fans!! I chose to stay and clap the guys off the pitch although I was just as gutted as anoyone else....but look into the players eyes and they were devastated!!
Don't you dare preach to a life long supporter who welcomes ANYONE into our ground, but if you condone booing at a team who play their hearts out then I would suggest you reconsider your loyalties!!
As a managing consultant I expect commitment to a cause and as a response for good results you get a reward, but equally I would coach mistakes not start slating members of my team for being human and making mistakes.....althoug
h these late goals would seem to need a bit of HR!? :-0....it is still a young team.
I would be glad to discuss this further in the members lounge at any of the home games, so please feel free to buy a bottle of STFC Red Wine and I'll reciprocate over a mode of discussion suitable to this club's current position! :-)
London Red, says...
9:48am Mon 8 Feb 10
I'm just a fan who happened to want to show AF and Co how thankful I was of them saving us and put my hard earned cash in as capital on the recent share issue.
Your views seem to suggest that the team are complete morans and would not understand the difference between being booed out of anger and frustration than to a poor performance!
The feeling in the crowd where I was they are going to equalise you can feel and see it - so when it did come in the 93rd just before the whistle - people where just letting out emotion - the same as if you wrote aaaaarrrgh! on a message board. players can read them too!
I am certain if any player was asked they would simply say we share their frustration and understand the reaction on Sat - i.e. not a dig at the performance.
OK there are few idiots on here who slate the team and management week in week out - but most like myself are delighted by the effort they put in and the results they have delivered to date.
However, idiots or not, booing or not, I would never say you are not welcome as all are needed as much as everyone else to make STFC the success we all want.
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
12:45pm Mon 8 Feb 10
London Red wrote:I think we will have to agree to differ here....how my message denotes I think the players are morons!!??... you really do take the biscuit and really need to get a brainscan!!...you say "Booing is the same as shouting or typing Aaarrggghhh"!!?? I DID shout Aaaarrrgghhh on Saturday as a sign of frustration, but would not have dreamt of booing the team after Saturday's performance!! Booing that performance when we are in 6th place is a sign of someone who doesn't understand or who can't communicate in English.
SAP - I'm not on the board so you can rest easily! I'm just a fan who happened to want to show AF and Co how thankful I was of them saving us and put my hard earned cash in as capital on the recent share issue. Your views seem to suggest that the team are complete morans and would not understand the difference between being booed out of anger and frustration than to a poor performance! The feeling in the crowd where I was they are going to equalise you can feel and see it - so when it did come in the 93rd just before the whistle - people where just letting out emotion - the same as if you wrote aaaaarrrgh! on a message board. players can read them too! I am certain if any player was asked they would simply say we share their frustration and understand the reaction on Sat - i.e. not a dig at the performance. OK there are few idiots on here who slate the team and management week in week out - but most like myself are delighted by the effort they put in and the results they have delivered to date. However, idiots or not, booing or not, I would never say you are not welcome as all are needed as much as everyone else to make STFC the success we all want.
Get behind the team and don't clap if you are annoyed, DON'T boo the team until the players don't try!!
You should be ASHAMED London Red
Davidsyrett, Swindon says...
1:08pm Mon 8 Feb 10
SAPFanSTFC wrote:totally agree SAP, London red is does not understand football, How do the players feel after giving 100% to be booed of the pitch. Ashamed you should be! If your unhappy leave the ground without clappin.
London Red wrote: SAP - I'm not on the board so you can rest easily! I'm just a fan who happened to want to show AF and Co how thankful I was of them saving us and put my hard earned cash in as capital on the recent share issue. Your views seem to suggest that the team are complete morans and would not understand the difference between being booed out of anger and frustration than to a poor performance! The feeling in the crowd where I was they are going to equalise you can feel and see it - so when it did come in the 93rd just before the whistle - people where just letting out emotion - the same as if you wrote aaaaarrrgh! on a message board. players can read them too! I am certain if any player was asked they would simply say we share their frustration and understand the reaction on Sat - i.e. not a dig at the performance. OK there are few idiots on here who slate the team and management week in week out - but most like myself are delighted by the effort they put in and the results they have delivered to date. However, idiots or not, booing or not, I would never say you are not welcome as all are needed as much as everyone else to make STFC the success we all want.I think we will have to agree to differ here....how my message denotes I think the players are morons!!??... you really do take the biscuit and really need to get a brainscan!!...you say "Booing is the same as shouting or typing Aaarrggghhh"!!?? I DID shout Aaaarrrgghhh on Saturday as a sign of frustration, but would not have dreamt of booing the team after Saturday's performance!! Booing that performance when we are in 6th place is a sign of someone who doesn't understand or who can't communicate in English. Get behind the team and don't clap if you are annoyed, DON'T boo the team until the players don't try!! You should be ASHAMED London Red
London Red, says...
1:50pm Mon 8 Feb 10
All I said is I don't believe booing is an issue - happens at all 92 league teams and probalby a lot of non league teams too.
The ironic thing here is re-reading SAP's posts he said agreed with booing if the performance is bad - which doesn't make sense to me - either you agree or disagree with booing!
Davidsyrett, Swindon says...
3:21pm Mon 8 Feb 10
sw near-done: just about sums it up.
hertz, Bakkum says...
3:30pm Mon 8 Feb 10
avo, swindon says...
6:39pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Mondeaux wrote:No mondeaux
Avo, Is that to the tune of:- "Robin Hood, Robin Hood, riding through the glen, Robin Hood, Robin Hood, with his band of men. Feared by the bad, loved by the good, Robin Hood, Robin Hood, Robin Hood." "He came to Sherwood Forest, with a sausage in his hand. . . . etc, etc.
its to the tune of 'viva ronaldo' sung by manure fans, (used to)
you can google it and get to hear it, i love it and it suits lesc no end.
As to the dog. Yes you are all right, take it out on the owners, so maybe some poo through their letterbox instead.
To the duke of banbry - we will be moving 'across the aisle' next season, 4 of us, but intend having our swindon flag right alongside your 'south ****** reds' one.
See, I cant even bring myself to say the word lol.....
Town end town end give us a song....
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
7:17pm Mon 8 Feb 10
London Red wrote:Last comment London Red as I think the majority are, like me, against it altogether.
As I said from point one I never booed - yet should be ashamed of myself! How does that figure? All I said is I don't believe booing is an issue - happens at all 92 league teams and probalby a lot of non league teams too. The ironic thing here is re-reading SAP's posts he said agreed with booing if the performance is bad - which doesn't make sense to me - either you agree or disagree with booing!
You should try being an interviewer as you make up your own version of events and bend it to suit as time goes by. My comment was not if the team are playing badly, it was that I understand it more when the team are making no effort, or as per other club's performances when it is the the vein of being prima donnas which shows disrespect to the club, its fans and management.
I have, like the majority of true fans always been against booing and was even more angry when fans singled out Lesci earlier in the season.
You have stated that we should welcome everyone and put up with them booing at players regardless, as you want numbers through the gate!!??....I think you should have had your money in with previous money grabbing owners and not with the current shrewd investors!!
Walk out and don't applaud if you are unhappy but don't boo and London Red....if you are a true investor....don't accuse life long STFC fans who pay for opposition fans to come to our games on a regular basis of alienting people and being a negative fcator on STFC's development!!
I am and always have been an STFC fan and will stick up for anyone, except those mindless individuals who have no place in the County Ground....which thankfully are few and far between.
I want to see people coming through the gates who, even if they are nuetral, will clap quality regardless of the result.
SAPFanSTFC, Thatcham says...
7:19pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Davidsyrett wrote:Cheers DaveSyrett....and totally agree, tomorrow is a must win and can't wait....although hate the thought of a 5am start to get back to Cambridge for work the next day.
Ok! think it's time to move onto a new subject, lets just get behind the lads tomorrow and hope no-one has any reason to Boo! sw near-done: just about sums it up.
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TenerifeRed, says...
4:57pm Sat 6 Feb 10