SWINDON TOWN: Bournemouth reject Town bid for Thomas

Bournemouth's Wes Thomas has been the subject of a bid from Swindon Town

Bournemouth's Wes Thomas has been the subject of a bid from Swindon Town

First published in News

BOURNEMOUTH have rejected a bid from Swindon Town for Wes Thomas, Cherries manager Eddie Howe has confirmed.

The offer, which is believed to have been in the region of £125,000, was submitted yesterday but quickly rebuffed by the Championship outfit.

The Advertiser broke news of the Robins' interest in Thomas on Tuesday.

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2:17pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Davidsyrett says...

For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

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For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99 Davidsyrett
  • Score: 15

2:18pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Graham8181 says...

is he any good?
is he any good? Graham8181
  • Score: -7

2:19pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Davidsyrett says...

The bid was made yesterday and announced on twitter, more importantly have we made a second bid?
The bid was made yesterday and announced on twitter, more importantly have we made a second bid? Davidsyrett
  • Score: 7

2:29pm Thu 8 Aug 13

louiscassius says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
The bid was made yesterday and announced on twitter, more importantly have we made a second bid?
Dave,

Just put Lee Powers statement on the other two most recent threads...

Good minds think alike ...Hahahaha.

What did you think mate?
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: The bid was made yesterday and announced on twitter, more importantly have we made a second bid?[/p][/quote]Dave, Just put Lee Powers statement on the other two most recent threads... Good minds think alike ...Hahahaha. What did you think mate? louiscassius
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Thu 8 Aug 13

The Black Hand says...

Bouremouth get Ritchie for peanuts how about returning the compliments with Thomas!
Bouremouth get Ritchie for peanuts how about returning the compliments with Thomas! The Black Hand
  • Score: 17

2:36pm Thu 8 Aug 13

london paolo says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

Read more at http://www.swindonto

wnfc.co.uk/news/arti

cle/leepowerstatemen

t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd

ctWCzzS1dA.99
Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust.

Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland.

Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99[/p][/quote]Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust. Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland. Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future. london paolo
  • Score: -10

2:37pm Thu 8 Aug 13

RogerJ1969 says...

Davidsyrett wrote:
The bid was made yesterday and announced on twitter, more importantly have we made a second bid?
I wonder if this could end up with Caddis going in the opposite direction?
[quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: The bid was made yesterday and announced on twitter, more importantly have we made a second bid?[/p][/quote]I wonder if this could end up with Caddis going in the opposite direction? RogerJ1969
  • Score: 4

3:17pm Thu 8 Aug 13

jevs says...

london paolo wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

Read more at http://www.swindonto


wnfc.co.uk/news/arti


cle/leepowerstatemen


t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd


ctWCzzS1dA.99
Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust.

Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland.

Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.
Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?
[quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99[/p][/quote]Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust. Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland. Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.[/p][/quote]Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud? jevs
  • Score: 15

3:32pm Thu 8 Aug 13

louiscassius says...

jevs wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

Read more at http://www.swindonto



wnfc.co.uk/news/arti



cle/leepowerstatemen



t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd



ctWCzzS1dA.99
Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust.

Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland.

Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.
Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?
London,

Come on mate, if it wasn't for Jed and him we would be in the sh1t well and truly and e'd be on here now blaming AB and everyone from the last board.

Lets just thank our lucky stars we still have L:eague 1 status and have a team we could enjoy watching given some time and patience....

I'm 43 and a no-one, the way I look at it...I'm not going anywhere soon, so why not just give MC and the lads and Lee for that matter a chance...???
[quote][p][bold]jevs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99[/p][/quote]Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust. Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland. Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.[/p][/quote]Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?[/p][/quote]London, Come on mate, if it wasn't for Jed and him we would be in the sh1t well and truly and e'd be on here now blaming AB and everyone from the last board. Lets just thank our lucky stars we still have L:eague 1 status and have a team we could enjoy watching given some time and patience.... I'm 43 and a no-one, the way I look at it...I'm not going anywhere soon, so why not just give MC and the lads and Lee for that matter a chance...??? louiscassius
  • Score: 15

3:37pm Thu 8 Aug 13

ciclosporindorset says...

I see the negative PR has started already - cant quite work out where the need is to start to undermine somebody on day one. Paulo - you talk a better story about 442 - stick to the knitting is my advice!
I see the negative PR has started already - cant quite work out where the need is to start to undermine somebody on day one. Paulo - you talk a better story about 442 - stick to the knitting is my advice! ciclosporindorset
  • Score: 2

3:53pm Thu 8 Aug 13

The Town End says...

No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand The Town End
  • Score: -20

4:07pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Davidsyrett says...

louiscassius wrote:
jevs wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

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Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust.

Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland.

Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.
Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?
London,

Come on mate, if it wasn't for Jed and him we would be in the sh1t well and truly and e'd be on here now blaming AB and everyone from the last board.

Lets just thank our lucky stars we still have L:eague 1 status and have a team we could enjoy watching given some time and patience....

I'm 43 and a no-one, the way I look at it...I'm not going anywhere soon, so why not just give MC and the lads and Lee for that matter a chance...???
London, Powers must have done something right due to the fact he has to live in Switzerland to avoid paying tax!

Louie. To answer your earlier question, I'm glad Power has come out and made things clear as to his position in the club. There's no doubt he's got the financial muscle and due to him only being in the UK for 90 days a year maximum there's no way he can run the club, and that's Jed's job.

Having seen the Town against Spurs and Torquay, I'm also grateful of his connection with Spurs, there's a lot of great young talent here that I'm sure we would not have got them without him, and the style of football we are playing has only been bettered to my mind during the Hoddle/Ardiles era.

Having said that, I hope we don't become reliant on one club and that once this season is over we are able to stand on our own 2 feet.
[quote][p][bold]louiscassius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jevs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99[/p][/quote]Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust. Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland. Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.[/p][/quote]Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?[/p][/quote]London, Come on mate, if it wasn't for Jed and him we would be in the sh1t well and truly and e'd be on here now blaming AB and everyone from the last board. Lets just thank our lucky stars we still have L:eague 1 status and have a team we could enjoy watching given some time and patience.... I'm 43 and a no-one, the way I look at it...I'm not going anywhere soon, so why not just give MC and the lads and Lee for that matter a chance...???[/p][/quote]London, Powers must have done something right due to the fact he has to live in Switzerland to avoid paying tax! Louie. To answer your earlier question, I'm glad Power has come out and made things clear as to his position in the club. There's no doubt he's got the financial muscle and due to him only being in the UK for 90 days a year maximum there's no way he can run the club, and that's Jed's job. Having seen the Town against Spurs and Torquay, I'm also grateful of his connection with Spurs, there's a lot of great young talent here that I'm sure we would not have got them without him, and the style of football we are playing has only been bettered to my mind during the Hoddle/Ardiles era. Having said that, I hope we don't become reliant on one club and that once this season is over we are able to stand on our own 2 feet. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 2

4:10pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Davidsyrett says...

The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
It's not about no negative comments, but more to give the board a chance to see what they can do.

As far as I am concerned the slate is wiped clean when the board took over, I'm not interested in what they did in the past, I want to see what they can do in the future.
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]It's not about no negative comments, but more to give the board a chance to see what they can do. As far as I am concerned the slate is wiped clean when the board took over, I'm not interested in what they did in the past, I want to see what they can do in the future. Davidsyrett
  • Score: 15

4:12pm Thu 8 Aug 13

The Town End says...

Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol
Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol The Town End
  • Score: 0

4:17pm Thu 8 Aug 13

jevs says...

The Town End wrote:
Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol
Much better to sound like a more negative & less charming version of Eeeyore clearly.

The trouble is, you whiners have nothing to say, but you keep on & on & on saying it. Feel free to support someone else.
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol[/p][/quote]Much better to sound like a more negative & less charming version of Eeeyore clearly. The trouble is, you whiners have nothing to say, but you keep on & on & on saying it. Feel free to support someone else. jevs
  • Score: 3

4:21pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Redhouse Red says...

jevs wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

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Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust.

Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland.

Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.
Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?
Liquidation hardly means successful and profitable either though does it. The is only stating the facts.

It doesn't mean we will go into liquidation with him on board. Fitton was a successful business man and we hardly did well financially under him
[quote][p][bold]jevs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99[/p][/quote]Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust. Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland. Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.[/p][/quote]Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?[/p][/quote]Liquidation hardly means successful and profitable either though does it. The is only stating the facts. It doesn't mean we will go into liquidation with him on board. Fitton was a successful business man and we hardly did well financially under him Redhouse Red
  • Score: 0

4:29pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Bassett Hound says...

The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
How do you know what you say is the truth ? It's just your opinion.

Most of the negative stuff is based on hearsay.
You talk of people following like sheep. What about the sheep following fredi crowd,you are possibly just as deluded.
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]How do you know what you say is the truth ? It's just your opinion. Most of the negative stuff is based on hearsay. You talk of people following like sheep. What about the sheep following fredi crowd,you are possibly just as deluded. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 8

4:32pm Thu 8 Aug 13

We are PANTS says...

The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
i speak my mind,

TW#T is the first thing that came into it .... ;-)
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]i speak my mind, TW#T is the first thing that came into it .... ;-) We are PANTS
  • Score: 4

4:46pm Thu 8 Aug 13

jevs says...

I don't know Redhouse - I have no knowledge of Power's business dealings & don't claim to have. Some business ventures are short term & may always be intended to be liquidated some time later - a lot of property development companies end up this way.

I'm not some board apologist, I have no idea how this will all pan out, but what we have at the moment is a bunch of serial moaners going off on one about anything. If they actually are spending all the clubs cash building a secret underground lair than hand me a pitchfork, but lets wait until there's some actual evidence to suggest wrong doing, rather than a bunch of fish wives making up drivel & attaching hilarious nicknames to board members (yes I'm talking about 'Jed the Shred') or getting very over excited about a couple of leased cars.
I don't know Redhouse - I have no knowledge of Power's business dealings & don't claim to have. Some business ventures are short term & may always be intended to be liquidated some time later - a lot of property development companies end up this way. I'm not some board apologist, I have no idea how this will all pan out, but what we have at the moment is a bunch of serial moaners going off on one about anything. If they actually are spending all the clubs cash building a secret underground lair than hand me a pitchfork, but lets wait until there's some actual evidence to suggest wrong doing, rather than a bunch of fish wives making up drivel & attaching hilarious nicknames to board members (yes I'm talking about 'Jed the Shred') or getting very over excited about a couple of leased cars. jevs
  • Score: 5

5:07pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Chish and Fips says...

The Town End wrote:
Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol
Do you realise you have managed to post a comment without the word 'sheep' and the words 'head in the sand' in it - have you at last realised they had been overused and becoming very boring and meaningless.
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol[/p][/quote]Do you realise you have managed to post a comment without the word 'sheep' and the words 'head in the sand' in it - have you at last realised they had been overused and becoming very boring and meaningless. Chish and Fips
  • Score: 1

5:31pm Thu 8 Aug 13

ciclosporindorset says...

Always seems to me that the the positive crew on this site want to protect the innocent. The negative commentators dont like their own medicine so get it spat back - I just dont understand why they want to be so boring all the timmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Always seems to me that the the positive crew on this site want to protect the innocent. The negative commentators dont like their own medicine so get it spat back - I just dont understand why they want to be so boring all the timmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ciclosporindorset
  • Score: -1

5:38pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Is that you Lovesey says...

Guys we have players like Mason and Luongo, there is absolutely no way, even if AB was here that we would have signed a player of the clas that Mason has, the guy is a prem league player and IMO could have gone to a much higher league club, Powers influence means he is here, Fair play, this team will be frustrating at times infuriating, but they are gonna be entertaining.

I say Fair play to Lee for releasing the statement, its what people were asking for, so now he does it people moan WTF is the point in that.
Guys we have players like Mason and Luongo, there is absolutely no way, even if AB was here that we would have signed a player of the clas that Mason has, the guy is a prem league player and IMO could have gone to a much higher league club, Powers influence means he is here, Fair play, this team will be frustrating at times infuriating, but they are gonna be entertaining. I say Fair play to Lee for releasing the statement, its what people were asking for, so now he does it people moan WTF is the point in that. Is that you Lovesey
  • Score: 10

5:59pm Thu 8 Aug 13

dazzastfc says...

Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Guys we have players like Mason and Luongo, there is absolutely no way, even if AB was here that we would have signed a player of the clas that Mason has, the guy is a prem league player and IMO could have gone to a much higher league club, Powers influence means he is here, Fair play, this team will be frustrating at times infuriating, but they are gonna be entertaining.

I say Fair play to Lee for releasing the statement, its what people were asking for, so now he does it people moan WTF is the point in that.
WELL SAID
[quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Guys we have players like Mason and Luongo, there is absolutely no way, even if AB was here that we would have signed a player of the clas that Mason has, the guy is a prem league player and IMO could have gone to a much higher league club, Powers influence means he is here, Fair play, this team will be frustrating at times infuriating, but they are gonna be entertaining. I say Fair play to Lee for releasing the statement, its what people were asking for, so now he does it people moan WTF is the point in that.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID dazzastfc
  • Score: 10

6:05pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Krazy Kammy says...

The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;)

Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol Krazy Kammy
  • Score: -10

6:24pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Med Red says...

The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
Fair play Town End you say whatever you want. Nothing wrong with expressing concerns. However, just thought I'd mention that it be ostriches that bury their heads in sand, not deluded sheep..... mind you, I suppose if the sheep were deluded and thought they were ostriches.... baaaaa!!

Also thumbs-up for Lee P for trying to sign Thomas. Let's hope we get him or someone of that ilk.
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]Fair play Town End you say whatever you want. Nothing wrong with expressing concerns. However, just thought I'd mention that it be ostriches that bury their heads in sand, not deluded sheep..... mind you, I suppose if the sheep were deluded and thought they were ostriches.... baaaaa!! Also thumbs-up for Lee P for trying to sign Thomas. Let's hope we get him or someone of that ilk. Med Red
  • Score: 3

7:31pm Thu 8 Aug 13

nosyrudeman says...

The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
Pray tell what is the truth as you know / see it. I do NOT follow sheep or otherwise, but have an open mind and have to give those at the STFC a chance to operate.
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]Pray tell what is the truth as you know / see it. I do NOT follow sheep or otherwise, but have an open mind and have to give those at the STFC a chance to operate. nosyrudeman
  • Score: 0

7:34pm Thu 8 Aug 13

STFC_Surrey says...

jevs wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

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Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust.

Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland.

Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.
Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?
Whilst you are factually correct...
I'm not sure that 13 liquidations is a good advert for anyone either. Yep living as a tax exile in Switzerland does suggest some success it also suggests someone who plays tight to the wire and in combination with the liquidations it also suggests he's happy to do whatever as a 'means to an ends' - that to me along with Jed's general demeanour is all very unnerving to me as a long term fan.

If things start to go pear-shaped then don't expect any loyalty from these guys - I sense more an more that our club is being set-up as a feeder club and that the financial model will be to keep it ticking over on lowest cost grounds.

I've given up on having my beloved Swindon Town back as a viable option for promotion for a few years hence.....always in my blood but at my age sadly I think I shall never see them as an independent club again.

....at least I might get my Grandson to drive me to QPR for the League Cup match if I'm lucky.
[quote][p][bold]jevs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99[/p][/quote]Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust. Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland. Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.[/p][/quote]Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?[/p][/quote]Whilst you are factually correct... I'm not sure that 13 liquidations is a good advert for anyone either. Yep living as a tax exile in Switzerland does suggest some success it also suggests someone who plays tight to the wire and in combination with the liquidations it also suggests he's happy to do whatever as a 'means to an ends' - that to me along with Jed's general demeanour is all very unnerving to me as a long term fan. If things start to go pear-shaped then don't expect any loyalty from these guys - I sense more an more that our club is being set-up as a feeder club and that the financial model will be to keep it ticking over on lowest cost grounds. I've given up on having my beloved Swindon Town back as a viable option for promotion for a few years hence.....always in my blood but at my age sadly I think I shall never see them as an independent club again. ....at least I might get my Grandson to drive me to QPR for the League Cup match if I'm lucky. STFC_Surrey
  • Score: 3

7:50pm Thu 8 Aug 13

RogerJ1969 says...

Krazy Kammy wrote:
The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;)

Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol
Is everything you don't like childish?
[quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol[/p][/quote]Is everything you don't like childish? RogerJ1969
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Bassett Hound says...

STFC_Surrey wrote:
jevs wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Davidsyrett wrote:
For those of you interested:


TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement:
I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club.

I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall.

We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience.

As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past.

We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country.

We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager.

I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch.

#COYR

Lee

Read more at http://www.swindonto




wnfc.co.uk/news/arti




cle/leepowerstatemen




t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd




ctWCzzS1dA.99
Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust.

Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland.

Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.
Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?
Whilst you are factually correct...
I'm not sure that 13 liquidations is a good advert for anyone either. Yep living as a tax exile in Switzerland does suggest some success it also suggests someone who plays tight to the wire and in combination with the liquidations it also suggests he's happy to do whatever as a 'means to an ends' - that to me along with Jed's general demeanour is all very unnerving to me as a long term fan.

If things start to go pear-shaped then don't expect any loyalty from these guys - I sense more an more that our club is being set-up as a feeder club and that the financial model will be to keep it ticking over on lowest cost grounds.

I've given up on having my beloved Swindon Town back as a viable option for promotion for a few years hence.....always in my blood but at my age sadly I think I shall never see them as an independent club again.

....at least I might get my Grandson to drive me to QPR for the League Cup match if I'm lucky.
It can't be a feeder club you are only allowed 4 loan players from 1 club.

4 loan players in a squad of approx 25 hardly means losing your independence.
[quote][p][bold]STFC_Surrey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jevs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davidsyrett[/bold] wrote: For those of you interested: TOWN Director Lee Power has released the following statement: I’m delighted to be officially joining The Board of Swindon Town Football Club. I don’t think it’s any secret that I have been working in the background for the past few months and am pleased that I can finally talk in an official capacity. I am very excited about helping the club with the challenge of continuing to be successful on the pitch and also assisting in achieving financial sustainability. We (The Board) are extremely confident of achieving this but to ease all supporters' concerns, until this has been achieved, we (The Board) will continue to finance any shortfall. We knew this was the case in the short term and we are prepared to do so going forward until the club is where it needs to be financially. We also have to be aware of the new FFP rules which we would have exceeded considerably if we hadn’t taken the steps we had over the summer. From my personal point of view I feel I can add a lot to the club with my extensive business and football experience. As you are aware there has been a significant turnover of players and there will continue to be so until the budget is reduced to where it needs to be. The club has achieved success over the past couple of seasons signing experienced professionals on substantial contracts. That strategy needed to change and we have to now do things in a different way but we still expect to be successful with a younger group of players mixed in with some good senior professionals. We also plan to produce an attractive and exciting style of play that Swindon has been famous for in the past. We are excited by the players we have recruited and using the loan market to get good quality players in who fit in with the style that we play and also fit in with the wage constraints was always part of our plan. We feel that we have managed to get four loan players of real quality from Tottenham, and hopefully having them all from the same the club will make the bedding-in process a lot quicker and easier. I think a lot of people within the game consider, at that age, Spurs to have one of the strongest groups in the country. We are actively looking for a manager at the moment but that does not mean we will not continue to be active in the transfer market. Obviously it is not an ideal situation but with the season now upon us we have to continue to move on targets that have been identified whilst still moving some players out. We have a blueprint and philosophy in place that we want to instill and we are looking for a manager and players that fit into that. I am in constant contact with Mark Cooper who has done an excellent job and will be treated as manager until we are in a position to announce a permanent manager. I would like to reiterate my excitement at being part of this fantastic club and I would ask for a bit of patience as we work through this transitional period. I am sure if we are afforded that and you continue with your fantastic support of the club, we will give you a side to be proud of and that you look forward to coming to watch. #COYR Lee Read more at http://www.swindonto wnfc.co.uk/news/arti cle/leepowerstatemen t-978209.aspx#xSBPzd ctWCzzS1dA.99[/p][/quote]Football management experience - Cambridge Utd in the Conference, chairman and temporary manager. Recruited Jimmy quinn as manager. Avoided relegation, in play-off places when he resigned suddenly. Fans seemed to like him. Rushdon & Diamonds - joined the board, club went bust. Business experience - thirteen companies in liquidation, including the cre8 football programme publishing businesses, which have been talked about on here. Now a tax exile in Switzerland. Not sure this is the football and business experience that makes me optimistic for the future.[/p][/quote]Liquidation doesn't necessarily mean anything other than company closed down - you're using the phrase like it means bankruptcy. I have no idea about Lee Power, but is all this negativity because people actually know there's something wrong, or have all Town posters got into the habit of leaping to conclusions then slinging mud?[/p][/quote]Whilst you are factually correct... I'm not sure that 13 liquidations is a good advert for anyone either. Yep living as a tax exile in Switzerland does suggest some success it also suggests someone who plays tight to the wire and in combination with the liquidations it also suggests he's happy to do whatever as a 'means to an ends' - that to me along with Jed's general demeanour is all very unnerving to me as a long term fan. If things start to go pear-shaped then don't expect any loyalty from these guys - I sense more an more that our club is being set-up as a feeder club and that the financial model will be to keep it ticking over on lowest cost grounds. I've given up on having my beloved Swindon Town back as a viable option for promotion for a few years hence.....always in my blood but at my age sadly I think I shall never see them as an independent club again. ....at least I might get my Grandson to drive me to QPR for the League Cup match if I'm lucky.[/p][/quote]It can't be a feeder club you are only allowed 4 loan players from 1 club. 4 loan players in a squad of approx 25 hardly means losing your independence. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 0

7:56pm Thu 8 Aug 13

RogerJ1969 says...

dazzastfc wrote:
Is that you Lovesey wrote:
Guys we have players like Mason and Luongo, there is absolutely no way, even if AB was here that we would have signed a player of the clas that Mason has, the guy is a prem league player and IMO could have gone to a much higher league club, Powers influence means he is here, Fair play, this team will be frustrating at times infuriating, but they are gonna be entertaining.

I say Fair play to Lee for releasing the statement, its what people were asking for, so now he does it people moan WTF is the point in that.
WELL SAID
Spot on, once these two get fit watch us go. If this the quality Jed and Lee can attract then thumbs up from me. Would like to see Caddis back in the squad although probably unlikely.
[quote][p][bold]dazzastfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Is that you Lovesey[/bold] wrote: Guys we have players like Mason and Luongo, there is absolutely no way, even if AB was here that we would have signed a player of the clas that Mason has, the guy is a prem league player and IMO could have gone to a much higher league club, Powers influence means he is here, Fair play, this team will be frustrating at times infuriating, but they are gonna be entertaining. I say Fair play to Lee for releasing the statement, its what people were asking for, so now he does it people moan WTF is the point in that.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID[/p][/quote]Spot on, once these two get fit watch us go. If this the quality Jed and Lee can attract then thumbs up from me. Would like to see Caddis back in the squad although probably unlikely. RogerJ1969
  • Score: 0

8:00pm Thu 8 Aug 13

london paolo says...

Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.
Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout. london paolo
  • Score: 2

8:04pm Thu 8 Aug 13

london paolo says...

I see Helen Skelton has quit Blue Peter. Maybe to become the new manager? At least she wouldn't be a yes man.
I see Helen Skelton has quit Blue Peter. Maybe to become the new manager? At least she wouldn't be a yes man. london paolo
  • Score: -1

8:20pm Thu 8 Aug 13

billyboy2 says...

Krazy Kammy wrote:
The Town End wrote:
No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;)

Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol
TE & KK.....it doesn't seem to matter what the subject is with these two posters, it's just moan moan moan moan. Maybe we should show them some sympathy. It's boring the rest of us stupid. Just imagine what it must be like for them, seeing everything so pessimistically.
[quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol[/p][/quote]TE & KK.....it doesn't seem to matter what the subject is with these two posters, it's just moan moan moan moan. Maybe we should show them some sympathy. It's boring the rest of us stupid. Just imagine what it must be like for them, seeing everything so pessimistically. billyboy2
  • Score: -1

8:21pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Krazy Kammy says...

RogerJ1969 wrote:
Krazy Kammy wrote:
The Town End wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol
Is everything you don't like childish?
Oh ! Must have touched a nerve ;)

I do find this obsession you have with trolling me a little worrying roger ! This must stop now as its a little sad to be fair.
[quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol[/p][/quote]Is everything you don't like childish?[/p][/quote]Oh ! Must have touched a nerve ;) I do find this obsession you have with trolling me a little worrying roger ! This must stop now as its a little sad to be fair. Krazy Kammy
  • Score: -1

8:23pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Krazy Kammy says...

RogerJ1969 wrote:
Krazy Kammy wrote:
The Town End wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol
Is everything you don't like childish?
Oh ! Must have touched a nerve ;)

I do find this obsession you have with trolling me a little worrying roger ! This must stop now as its a little sad to be fair.
[quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol[/p][/quote]Is everything you don't like childish?[/p][/quote]Oh ! Must have touched a nerve ;) I do find this obsession you have with trolling me a little worrying roger ! This must stop now as its a little sad to be fair. Krazy Kammy
  • Score: 0

8:27pm Thu 8 Aug 13

billyboy2 says...

Krazy Kammy wrote:
RogerJ1969 wrote:
Krazy Kammy wrote:
The Town End wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol
Is everything you don't like childish?
Oh ! Must have touched a nerve ;)

I do find this obsession you have with trolling me a little worrying roger ! This must stop now as its a little sad to be fair.
Roger. Stop trolling him immediately. What's wrong with you ?
Don't forget, as KK says, you have to be fair.
[quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RogerJ1969[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol[/p][/quote]Is everything you don't like childish?[/p][/quote]Oh ! Must have touched a nerve ;) I do find this obsession you have with trolling me a little worrying roger ! This must stop now as its a little sad to be fair.[/p][/quote]Roger. Stop trolling him immediately. What's wrong with you ? Don't forget, as KK says, you have to be fair. billyboy2
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8:57pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Krazy Kammy says...

billyboy2 wrote:
Krazy Kammy wrote:
The Town End wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand
What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol
TE & KK.....it doesn't seem to matter what the subject is with these two posters, it's just moan moan moan moan. Maybe we should show them some sympathy. It's boring the rest of us stupid. Just imagine what it must be like for them, seeing everything so pessimistically.
I know ! And I have only ever posted on two threads as well regarding STFC in my time of being a member on here ! So I'm ever so terrible lol ;)
[quote][p][bold]billyboy2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Krazy Kammy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: No negative comments allowed on this forum please...remember. Everyone has to be like sheep and follow the rest with no mind, thoughts,opinions of yourselves ok unless it is how great the board are, how great this team is, how great are future is blah blah blah....no one is allowed to think or speak the truth or vent concerns etc...makes me laugh some of you deluded sheep on here with your heads buried in the sand[/p][/quote]What it TE as you will upset the clique on here ;) Oh and this new "like" and "don't like" button makes me laugh as its very childish lol[/p][/quote]TE & KK.....it doesn't seem to matter what the subject is with these two posters, it's just moan moan moan moan. Maybe we should show them some sympathy. It's boring the rest of us stupid. Just imagine what it must be like for them, seeing everything so pessimistically.[/p][/quote]I know ! And I have only ever posted on two threads as well regarding STFC in my time of being a member on here ! So I'm ever so terrible lol ;) Krazy Kammy
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9:05pm Thu 8 Aug 13

smirg kcab says...

The Town End wrote:
Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol
its funny
all these swindle fans who say about the negative views. will be slaughtering charlie austin who was if not in my book the best player to play for us imo, these people are very jelous on what other people have achieved.
they say they dont boo but they will give him hell,saying he is greedy and all that shiit.
[quote][p][bold]The Town End[/bold] wrote: Lol you people on here make me laugh...As soon as anyone says anything negative they are jumped on from tall height by the left wing, politically correct, ''You can't say that'' loonies Lol[/p][/quote]its funny all these swindle fans who say about the negative views. will be slaughtering charlie austin who was if not in my book the best player to play for us imo, these people are very jelous on what other people have achieved. they say they dont boo but they will give him hell,saying he is greedy and all that shiit. smirg kcab
  • Score: -1

9:36pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Bassett Hound says...

london paolo wrote:
Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.
It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.
[quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.[/p][/quote]It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy. Bassett Hound
  • Score: 0

9:37pm Thu 8 Aug 13

Bassett Hound says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.
It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.
Should be a does in there somewhere
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.[/p][/quote]It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.[/p][/quote]Should be a does in there somewhere Bassett Hound
  • Score: 0

9:53pm Thu 8 Aug 13

london paolo says...

Bassett Hound wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.
It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.
Oh, well that's all OK then. what a relief. Silly me.
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.[/p][/quote]It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.[/p][/quote]Oh, well that's all OK then. what a relief. Silly me. london paolo
  • Score: 0

10:25pm Thu 8 Aug 13

ciclosporindorset says...

london paolo wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.
It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.
Oh, well that's all OK then. what a relief. Silly me.
OK I am not going to go into why I discount London Paulo's words except to say they don't sit well with me and the expression sh.. stirrer comes to mind. So on that basis ..... I am out.
[quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.[/p][/quote]It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.[/p][/quote]Oh, well that's all OK then. what a relief. Silly me.[/p][/quote]OK I am not going to go into why I discount London Paulo's words except to say they don't sit well with me and the expression sh.. stirrer comes to mind. So on that basis ..... I am out. ciclosporindorset
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10:55pm Thu 8 Aug 13

london paolo says...

ciclosporindorset wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Bassett Hound wrote:
london paolo wrote:
Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.
It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.
Oh, well that's all OK then. what a relief. Silly me.
OK I am not going to go into why I discount London Paulo's words except to say they don't sit well with me and the expression sh.. stirrer comes to mind. So on that basis ..... I am out.
Looking back at your previous condescending comments i would say you are the sh**t stirrer. I don't really know where you are coming from. Good luck being out. I won't miss you.
[quote][p][bold]ciclosporindorset[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Hound[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]london paolo[/bold] wrote: Whooah! I just gave a short précis of a few available facts about Mr Power. I suppose liquidation can mean many things but I have painful first-hand experience of being a creditor, only last summer. The chain of events is familiar, but you only discover them afterwards, when it's too late. Owner keeps taking money out of the business in salaries, fees, dividends, quite legally, while it has strong cash-flow. Business later runs into difficulty and can't pay its bills. Owner puts company into liquidation so the creditors are left stranded. Then buggers off. Bank and taxman interested in talking to owner. The employees were left with no wages paid for a month; as a supplier I lost six months' earnings - that's half a year working for nothing. So when I read about people like Power it sends a shiver down my spine/makes my blood boil. Won't stop me supporting my club because it's my club, not his, if you get what I mean. But I just said the whole thing fills me with no confidence at all, and that's my view. I've got high moral principles in personal and business life. If others don't, that's your lookout.[/p][/quote]It's not mean that every company that goes bust is dodgy.[/p][/quote]Oh, well that's all OK then. what a relief. Silly me.[/p][/quote]OK I am not going to go into why I discount London Paulo's words except to say they don't sit well with me and the expression sh.. stirrer comes to mind. So on that basis ..... I am out.[/p][/quote]Looking back at your previous condescending comments i would say you are the sh**t stirrer. I don't really know where you are coming from. Good luck being out. I won't miss you. london paolo
  • Score: 0

11:41pm Thu 8 Aug 13

mancrobin says...

Having just got on from work I'll have the final say that no-one reads.

I'm pleased Lee Power has made a clear and positive statement and wish him well in his endeavours at Town. His strategy is sound.

I have huge doubts about anyone who is living in Switzerland for tax reasons.

I think the prospect of a team based on talented youngsters from Spurs is really exciting.

I struggle to form strong opinions about fuel costs although it does give me slight environmental concerns.

QPR away is a great tie.

From personal experience, coming up against an old sticking legend should add to the spice but Austin in private is abusive about Swindon. His comments as reported by the Adver don't ring true to me.

I would like the managerial position sorted out but think Cooper has done a great job so far. Not sure though that he is the permanent solution.

I'm glad we no longer have the self indulgent histrionics of PdC to deal with.

I think we will beat Stevenage at the weekend.

Now, what does that make me? A moaner, happy clapper, abisive, PC leftie or a sh*t stirrer?

As someone said earlier. Who cares?

Keep it real folks.

COYR!!!
Having just got on from work I'll have the final say that no-one reads. I'm pleased Lee Power has made a clear and positive statement and wish him well in his endeavours at Town. His strategy is sound. I have huge doubts about anyone who is living in Switzerland for tax reasons. I think the prospect of a team based on talented youngsters from Spurs is really exciting. I struggle to form strong opinions about fuel costs although it does give me slight environmental concerns. QPR away is a great tie. From personal experience, coming up against an old sticking legend should add to the spice but Austin in private is abusive about Swindon. His comments as reported by the Adver don't ring true to me. I would like the managerial position sorted out but think Cooper has done a great job so far. Not sure though that he is the permanent solution. I'm glad we no longer have the self indulgent histrionics of PdC to deal with. I think we will beat Stevenage at the weekend. Now, what does that make me? A moaner, happy clapper, abisive, PC leftie or a sh*t stirrer? As someone said earlier. Who cares? Keep it real folks. COYR!!! mancrobin
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