Flint vows to learn from red cards

This Is Swindon Town FC: Flint vows to learn from red cards Flint vows to learn from red cards

ADEN Flint has pledged to learn from his mistakes and adapt his game to fall in line with the hardline stance of modern-day referees when it comes to tough challenges.

The Swindon Town centre-back has been sent off twice this season, on both occasions putting himself in trouble with the officials for lunging into a tackle from behind, drawing criticism from Robins manager Paolo Di Canio in the process.

Flint conceded that his dismissal against Scunthorpe, for two yellow cards, was deserved but he felt aggrieved to be given his marching orders in the 2-0 home defeat to Macclesfield in the FA Cup last month.

However, having taken heed of his boss’ stern words, Flint has realised the need to refine his methods of defending as he comes to terms with refereeing in the Football League.

“He (Di Canio) said I’ve got to stand up a lot more and I think I’m going to do that in future. I’ve got to learn from my mistakes and I’m going to do that,” he said.

“I’ve got to learn to stand up a bit more. I’m a physical player and I like to get stuck in so I’m not going to change that but I just need to learn to stand up more.

“It’s hard because what can you judge as a fair, hard tackle. It’s a very thin line between tackling so it is a bit hard but you have to learn.

“Because I’ve come from non-league (Flint joined the Robins from Alfreton Town in 2011) it’s what I’m used to but obviously I’ve got to learn from my mistakes and I think I have.

“I think the first one was two stupid bookings to be honest and I probably deserved the red card, but the second one you look at that tackle five years ago and people say it’s a good tackle.

“I’ve won the ball but I’ve won it strongly and taken the man as well. The referees these days see that as dangerous play so obviously it was a red card.

“I’ve served my ban now and learnt my lesson.”

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6:44am Tue 11 Dec 12

Swindon1984 says...

Stand up is right - there's a skill to tackling well but it should still be used as a last rather than a first resort. Flint's often tried to tackle in areas of the pitch where he has no need to win the ball and has fouled in the process. That's just asking for trouble. Defending needs to be a team effort as well though, attack and defend as a team and it takes the pressure of both attackers and defenders.
Stand up is right - there's a skill to tackling well but it should still be used as a last rather than a first resort. Flint's often tried to tackle in areas of the pitch where he has no need to win the ball and has fouled in the process. That's just asking for trouble. Defending needs to be a team effort as well though, attack and defend as a team and it takes the pressure of both attackers and defenders. Swindon1984
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6:45am Tue 11 Dec 12

Ollie Reed's Parky dance! says...

Give it another 6 games and he will see red !
I do prefer him at the back though as TAH is shot to bits at the mo
Give it another 6 games and he will see red ! I do prefer him at the back though as TAH is shot to bits at the mo Ollie Reed's Parky dance!
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7:43am Tue 11 Dec 12

Glosteroldboy says...

Message for SAP - Re - predictions.

had a late call and I am off to hospital for a few days..
Could you please use the 10th predictor's scores and timings as my own. Whoever it is.

If anyone else could advise SAP of this request I would be grateful. Should be back for Christmas. Cheers.
Message for SAP - Re - predictions. had a late call and I am off to hospital for a few days.. Could you please use the 10th predictor's scores and timings as my own. Whoever it is. If anyone else could advise SAP of this request I would be grateful. Should be back for Christmas. Cheers. Glosteroldboy
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11:05am Tue 11 Dec 12

dreamofacleansheet2 says...

Haven't posted to often on here recently as negativity all a bit depressing for my optimistic self.

This made me laugh though as this is exactly what he said after the first red of the season that cost us two points. Let's hope the penny now has finally dropped.

Add his two reds to reasons for dropped points - take the 10-1 now available with Ladbrokes on us winning the league. All non believers you've been told 2.5-1 a top three finish, there's free money waiting for you.
Haven't posted to often on here recently as negativity all a bit depressing for my optimistic self. This made me laugh though as this is exactly what he said after the first red of the season that cost us two points. Let's hope the penny now has finally dropped. Add his two reds to reasons for dropped points - take the 10-1 now available with Ladbrokes on us winning the league. All non believers you've been told 2.5-1 a top three finish, there's free money waiting for you. dreamofacleansheet2
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1:10pm Tue 11 Dec 12

TheDukeOfBanbury says...

Despite this I rate Flint.

Always appear to look solid when he is at the back. However Wardy is also looking good and then we have Macca and Devera..........oh I am talking positive.
Despite this I rate Flint. Always appear to look solid when he is at the back. However Wardy is also looking good and then we have Macca and Devera..........oh I am talking positive. TheDukeOfBanbury
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2:08pm Tue 11 Dec 12

HOOKEY says...

has he got any brains says he will learn from getting red cards,sort of thing you learn whe your kid,hoof thats flint for ya no brains
has he got any brains says he will learn from getting red cards,sort of thing you learn whe your kid,hoof thats flint for ya no brains HOOKEY
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2:55pm Tue 11 Dec 12

tally38 says...

he is quality best defender we have
he is quality best defender we have tally38
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2:57pm Tue 11 Dec 12

tally38 says...

forgot to say he would not bottle a challenge like half of his team mates
forgot to say he would not bottle a challenge like half of his team mates tally38
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2:57pm Tue 11 Dec 12

tally38 says...

forgot to say he would not bottle a challenge like half of his team mates
forgot to say he would not bottle a challenge like half of his team mates tally38
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3:35pm Tue 11 Dec 12

HOOKEY says...

tally38 wrote:
forgot to say he would not bottle a challenge like half of his team mates
somebody else who got blinkers on,if his the best hate to see the worse
[quote][p][bold]tally38[/bold] wrote: forgot to say he would not bottle a challenge like half of his team mates[/p][/quote]somebody else who got blinkers on,if his the best hate to see the worse HOOKEY
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3:40pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Swindon1984 says...

HOOKEY wrote:
has he got any brains says he will learn from getting red cards,sort of thing you learn whe your kid,hoof thats flint for ya no brains
Behave, he wouldn't be the first big kump of a defender to pick up a red card or two, especially when you consider he was playing non-league not all that long ago. And no brains? No need for that. We can't all be your psychological equal. And what with all that experience you have of playing professional football the rest of us are at a bit of a disadvantage engaging you in conversation on the subject really. Oh wait, it's just another keyboard warrior happy to slag off a town player at the first opportunity, crisis averted!
[quote][p][bold]HOOKEY[/bold] wrote: has he got any brains says he will learn from getting red cards,sort of thing you learn whe your kid,hoof thats flint for ya no brains[/p][/quote]Behave, he wouldn't be the first big kump of a defender to pick up a red card or two, especially when you consider he was playing non-league not all that long ago. And no brains? No need for that. We can't all be your psychological equal. And what with all that experience you have of playing professional football the rest of us are at a bit of a disadvantage engaging you in conversation on the subject really. Oh wait, it's just another keyboard warrior happy to slag off a town player at the first opportunity, crisis averted! Swindon1984
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8:23pm Tue 11 Dec 12

International Robin2 says...

Learn to tackle and learn how to pass. Every time I've seen him play this season - all does is hoof it away. Defo has the potential to be a great defender but needs to keep cool and think about what he's doing. Do that and we'll be have a quality defender on our hands. Until then he's nothing but a liability on the pitch.
Learn to tackle and learn how to pass. Every time I've seen him play this season - all does is hoof it away. Defo has the potential to be a great defender but needs to keep cool and think about what he's doing. Do that and we'll be have a quality defender on our hands. Until then he's nothing but a liability on the pitch. International Robin2
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9:33pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Oi Den! says...

I thought he put in a very measured performance on Saturday, giving us a glimpse of the star he will become (I think) if he uses his loaf and receives the right coaching. Literally and metaphorically head and shoulders above the rest of our central defenders.
I thought he put in a very measured performance on Saturday, giving us a glimpse of the star he will become (I think) if he uses his loaf and receives the right coaching. Literally and metaphorically head and shoulders above the rest of our central defenders. Oi Den!
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9:56pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Malkym says...

Oi Den! wrote:
I thought he put in a very measured performance on Saturday, giving us a glimpse of the star he will become (I think) if he uses his loaf and receives the right coaching. Literally and metaphorically head and shoulders above the rest of our central defenders.
To Denzil Duke 84 & Tally yep Flinty will do for me any day still learning but a collosal defender.
[quote][p][bold]Oi Den![/bold] wrote: I thought he put in a very measured performance on Saturday, giving us a glimpse of the star he will become (I think) if he uses his loaf and receives the right coaching. Literally and metaphorically head and shoulders above the rest of our central defenders.[/p][/quote]To Denzil Duke 84 & Tally yep Flinty will do for me any day still learning but a collosal defender. Malkym
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10:35pm Tue 11 Dec 12

joey butler says...

Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........?

well only Arsenal.

Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!!

Well done Alan Connell.
Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell. joey butler
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11:49pm Tue 11 Dec 12

International Robin2 says...

joey butler wrote:
Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........?

well only Arsenal.

Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!!

Well done Alan Connell.
Indeed congrats for Connell.

However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League!
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.[/p][/quote]Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League! International Robin2
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12:27am Wed 12 Dec 12

joey butler says...

International Robin2 wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........?

well only Arsenal.

Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!!

Well done Alan Connell.
Indeed congrats for Connell.

However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League!
Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest?

That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!!

And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to?

I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night.

And Connell can!!
[quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.[/p][/quote]Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League![/p][/quote]Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest? That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!! And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to? I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night. And Connell can!! joey butler
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12:34am Wed 12 Dec 12

joey butler says...

joey butler wrote:
International Robin2 wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........?

well only Arsenal.

Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!!

Well done Alan Connell.
Indeed congrats for Connell.

However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League!
Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest?

That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!!

And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to?

I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night.

And Connell can!!
I think Wizard may well share my support of Connell's achievements in recent days and in the meantime, my apoligies for a couple of spelling errors in my post above.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.[/p][/quote]Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League![/p][/quote]Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest? That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!! And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to? I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night. And Connell can!![/p][/quote]I think Wizard may well share my support of Connell's achievements in recent days and in the meantime, my apoligies for a couple of spelling errors in my post above. joey butler
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6:27am Wed 12 Dec 12

Swindon1984 says...

joey butler wrote:
International Robin2 wrote:
joey butler wrote:
Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........?

well only Arsenal.

Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!!

Well done Alan Connell.
Indeed congrats for Connell.

However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League!
Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest?

That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!!

And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to?

I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night.

And Connell can!!
Connell scored a penalty not a goal in open play against Arsenal. Totally different. He may have gotten goals for us this season, he may not, we'll never know. I'd also argue his return though reasonable wasn't exactly outstanding based on the amount of appearances he made. Calling our current crop "planks" is also a tad unfair, if you look at how many Connell scored in a poorer league than we're currently in, compare that pro rata for Collins strike rate based on games played and it's very similar. Rose coloured specs again, and it's just such a tired argument (which can never be proved or disproved) that a former player would do the business for us now. Let's support the players we have rather than argue over who we'd have back - Connell's no longer a town player, need to move on.
[quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.[/p][/quote]Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League![/p][/quote]Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest? That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!! And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to? I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night. And Connell can!![/p][/quote]Connell scored a penalty not a goal in open play against Arsenal. Totally different. He may have gotten goals for us this season, he may not, we'll never know. I'd also argue his return though reasonable wasn't exactly outstanding based on the amount of appearances he made. Calling our current crop "planks" is also a tad unfair, if you look at how many Connell scored in a poorer league than we're currently in, compare that pro rata for Collins strike rate based on games played and it's very similar. Rose coloured specs again, and it's just such a tired argument (which can never be proved or disproved) that a former player would do the business for us now. Let's support the players we have rather than argue over who we'd have back - Connell's no longer a town player, need to move on. Swindon1984
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11:42am Wed 12 Dec 12

Hampshire_ReD says...

Swindon1984 wrote:
joey butler wrote:
International Robin2 wrote:
joey butler wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.
Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League!
Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest? That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!! And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to? I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night. And Connell can!!
Connell scored a penalty not a goal in open play against Arsenal. Totally different. He may have gotten goals for us this season, he may not, we'll never know. I'd also argue his return though reasonable wasn't exactly outstanding based on the amount of appearances he made. Calling our current crop "planks" is also a tad unfair, if you look at how many Connell scored in a poorer league than we're currently in, compare that pro rata for Collins strike rate based on games played and it's very similar. Rose coloured specs again, and it's just such a tired argument (which can never be proved or disproved) that a former player would do the business for us now. Let's support the players we have rather than argue over who we'd have back - Connell's no longer a town player, need to move on.
Rose tinted or not - the stats don't look good.

Connell managed 11 goals last season from 13 starts and 9 sub-starts (0.5 goals per game).

Collins this season has managed 5 goals from 15 starts and 5 substarts (0.25 goals per game)

Rooney 12 starts, 10 sub-starts 3 goals (0.14 goals per game)

Williams 16 starts 0 sub-starts, 3 goals.
(0.19 goals per game)

I totally get the argument why Connell wasn't the right player for the Town this season - because of the desire to push for automatic promotion.

But it's blindingly obvious that Rooney, Collins and so far Williams are not either.

********************
************
Finally a huge congrats to Phil Smith - back between the posts.. albeit with a barely solvent Pompey.

He will definitely feel like he has something to prove on New Years day at the County Ground.
[quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.[/p][/quote]Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League![/p][/quote]Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest? That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!! And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to? I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night. And Connell can!![/p][/quote]Connell scored a penalty not a goal in open play against Arsenal. Totally different. He may have gotten goals for us this season, he may not, we'll never know. I'd also argue his return though reasonable wasn't exactly outstanding based on the amount of appearances he made. Calling our current crop "planks" is also a tad unfair, if you look at how many Connell scored in a poorer league than we're currently in, compare that pro rata for Collins strike rate based on games played and it's very similar. Rose coloured specs again, and it's just such a tired argument (which can never be proved or disproved) that a former player would do the business for us now. Let's support the players we have rather than argue over who we'd have back - Connell's no longer a town player, need to move on.[/p][/quote]Rose tinted or not - the stats don't look good. Connell managed 11 goals last season from 13 starts and 9 sub-starts (0.5 goals per game). Collins this season has managed 5 goals from 15 starts and 5 substarts (0.25 goals per game) Rooney 12 starts, 10 sub-starts 3 goals (0.14 goals per game) Williams 16 starts 0 sub-starts, 3 goals. (0.19 goals per game) I totally get the argument why Connell wasn't the right player for the Town this season - because of the desire to push for automatic promotion. But it's blindingly obvious that Rooney, Collins and so far Williams are not either. ******************** ************ Finally a huge congrats to Phil Smith - back between the posts.. albeit with a barely solvent Pompey. He will definitely feel like he has something to prove on New Years day at the County Ground. Hampshire_ReD
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2:03pm Wed 12 Dec 12

the don69 says...

Hampshire_ReD wrote:
Swindon1984 wrote:
joey butler wrote:
International Robin2 wrote:
joey butler wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.
Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League!
Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest? That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!! And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to? I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night. And Connell can!!
Connell scored a penalty not a goal in open play against Arsenal. Totally different. He may have gotten goals for us this season, he may not, we'll never know. I'd also argue his return though reasonable wasn't exactly outstanding based on the amount of appearances he made. Calling our current crop "planks" is also a tad unfair, if you look at how many Connell scored in a poorer league than we're currently in, compare that pro rata for Collins strike rate based on games played and it's very similar. Rose coloured specs again, and it's just such a tired argument (which can never be proved or disproved) that a former player would do the business for us now. Let's support the players we have rather than argue over who we'd have back - Connell's no longer a town player, need to move on.
Rose tinted or not - the stats don't look good.

Connell managed 11 goals last season from 13 starts and 9 sub-starts (0.5 goals per game).

Collins this season has managed 5 goals from 15 starts and 5 substarts (0.25 goals per game)

Rooney 12 starts, 10 sub-starts 3 goals (0.14 goals per game)

Williams 16 starts 0 sub-starts, 3 goals.
(0.19 goals per game)

I totally get the argument why Connell wasn't the right player for the Town this season - because of the desire to push for automatic promotion.

But it's blindingly obvious that Rooney, Collins and so far Williams are not either.

********************

************
Finally a huge congrats to Phil Smith - back between the posts.. albeit with a barely solvent Pompey.

He will definitely feel like he has something to prove on New Years day at the County Ground.
Spot on Hampshire Red!We haven't got One decent Striker,that's can consistently hit the back of the net,only one man to blame for that PDC he chose them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[quote][p][bold]Hampshire_ReD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Swindon1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]International Robin2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joey butler[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Alan Connell, who just scored what proved to be a winning penalty for Bradford tonight and they knocked out...........? well only Arsenal. Connell also scored at the weekend, another PDC reject who still knows how to find the back of the net!!!! Well done Alan Connell.[/p][/quote]Indeed congrats for Connell. However, the shot at Di Canio is a bit wide of the mark. Connell is a good League Two player but is well short of the quality needed in League One! Of course he knows how to hit the back of the net every week.. It's League bloody Two playing against Part-Time Clubs that are feel they are in the Premier League![/p][/quote]Please clarify when Arsenal were or indeed are a League 2 Club, which your comments above suggest? That is who Connell's penalty knocked out and once again, well done to him!! And when you refer to Connell being ''well short of the quality needed in League One'', please explain which of our current strikers have the ''quallity'' for League One that you refer to? I might help you with the answer, they are all planks and the answer is, NONE of our our current large selection of strikers can score, or would score if they stayed awake all night. And Connell can!![/p][/quote]Connell scored a penalty not a goal in open play against Arsenal. Totally different. He may have gotten goals for us this season, he may not, we'll never know. I'd also argue his return though reasonable wasn't exactly outstanding based on the amount of appearances he made. Calling our current crop "planks" is also a tad unfair, if you look at how many Connell scored in a poorer league than we're currently in, compare that pro rata for Collins strike rate based on games played and it's very similar. Rose coloured specs again, and it's just such a tired argument (which can never be proved or disproved) that a former player would do the business for us now. Let's support the players we have rather than argue over who we'd have back - Connell's no longer a town player, need to move on.[/p][/quote]Rose tinted or not - the stats don't look good. Connell managed 11 goals last season from 13 starts and 9 sub-starts (0.5 goals per game). Collins this season has managed 5 goals from 15 starts and 5 substarts (0.25 goals per game) Rooney 12 starts, 10 sub-starts 3 goals (0.14 goals per game) Williams 16 starts 0 sub-starts, 3 goals. (0.19 goals per game) I totally get the argument why Connell wasn't the right player for the Town this season - because of the desire to push for automatic promotion. But it's blindingly obvious that Rooney, Collins and so far Williams are not either. ******************** ************ Finally a huge congrats to Phil Smith - back between the posts.. albeit with a barely solvent Pompey. He will definitely feel like he has something to prove on New Years day at the County Ground.[/p][/quote]Spot on Hampshire Red!We haven't got One decent Striker,that's can consistently hit the back of the net,only one man to blame for that PDC he chose them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! the don69
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1:03pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Dover Red says...

Lies , **** lies, and statistics. We can make them say what we want to hear, Joey really needs to stop complaining about players who could do this and that if still here, we get this same point less arguement when ever an ex players scores a couple of goals.
Lies , **** lies, and statistics. We can make them say what we want to hear, Joey really needs to stop complaining about players who could do this and that if still here, we get this same point less arguement when ever an ex players scores a couple of goals. Dover Red
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